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nice but that one line always gets me rattled,"i pulled my harpoon out of my dirty red bandana"!or have i been hearing it wrong for decades,i always thought a harpoon was something you kill a whale with not an instrument,i have a bunch of harps but not any harpoons to play.So correct me on the lyrics please,what the hell are they singing?Mike

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Thanks for sharing that one Tom...she does it justice!

And that's a Bobby Mcgee (good enough for me smile )

And yup Mike, the lyric says "harpoon"... maybe that is appropriate slang for a mouth harp somewhere in the world, maybe it was poetic license when he needed another syllable, kinda like Bobbie Joe robbing that gasso...


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This is what I've found "The line, "I pulled my Harpoon from my dirty red bandana" can be interpreted 2 ways. The more sanitized version considers the "Harpoon" as a slang word for harmonica. The second interpretation considers it a hypodermic needle, since a bandana was often used to tie off the arm before an addict shot up. "
Now, from several sites I looked at, it's not clear if harpoon was already slang for harmonica when Kris wrote the song, or he coined the term in the song.


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TAKE THAT, you people who think modern pop stars are not talented and cannot sing without pitch correction or other effects.


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Colin, you read my mind! It seems Big Jim has moved on, but I wonder how he'd demean her version since she's just one of those no talent pop stars.

Pink was one of our earliest JPF members before she made her way out to California to work with the gal from 4 Non Blondes who made her career for her. She even emailed back and forth with me about the trip. After the trip I never heard from her again, but of course she had no need for us anymore and that's fine with me. There's nothing more I could have offered her, she was the tip top of the heap as her career has proven. I'd love to meet her sometime for a photo. It has always been fun to follow her amazing career.

All the successful people I have met and been fortunate enough to spend any time with or even get to know personally have been very talented and very nice. Pink is a legit superstar talent who can do any genre of music, do it to perfection and the music comes from her soul. I loved this raw performance (she even messes up a bit but keeps going like all real musicians do, music is fun, not a business meeting) the first time I saw it many years ago... thanks for bring it back to our attention.

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I do love that version.


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She's got some phenomenal writers working with her. She's my favorite female singer in pop and rock. Super awesome voice.


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I live in the middle of what I call the university triangle here in Nashville (Vanderbilt, Belmont and Lipscome Universities). Needless to say I am surrounded by students and a good many of them are music majors or involved with music to a certain extent.

I hear the students practicing hours on end and am reminded of when I was young and practiced guitar for at least 6 hours a day. It hasn't changed at all. The students are just as dedicated to honing their craft as I was.

The use of auto-tune has more to do with the economics of recording today. Budgets have been slashed so the amount of time you can allot in a studio has been diminished.




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Sue, you are exactly right. Autotune when used as a choice tool is awesome in its value and cost effectiveness/speed factor. A few use it to make music without being able to sing, but no amount of training can make most people awesome singers. So like bringing in a sample of something rather than hiring every sound maker for every sound, it allows that creators of music to choose who they want to deliver it it and how.

And all those hours people spend is adding to the value of their life experience. It's a part of your life most people miss when it is gone. Or, if they are lucky, once learned, they never have to leave it behind again.

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What a voice !

And from 10 yrs ago too. Pink is still going great guns out this way in Oz. A recent sell out tour of 500k tickets in a population of 20 million sure says it all.

And you can see why !

Great stuff.

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Terrific voice. Looks like she got the guitarist so flustered that he bobbled strum. smile


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I'm not at all surprised, out of the pop waves of the last ten or more years, I always thought she was the real deal....though I'm still not really into the style enough to buy any records in that genre.

I'll have to side with Big Jim on a lot of stuff in that arena, but what always irritated me was, I always hear talent up the wazoo and never hear any lyrics that mean much to me........that's where that genre falls short.....again, to me anyway.

but, I does respect me some pink to be sure.

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Originally Posted by maccharles
I'm not at all surprised, out of the pop waves of the last ten or more years, I always thought she was the real deal....though I'm still not really into the style enough to buy any records in that genre.

I'll have to side with Big Jim on a lot of stuff in that arena, but what always irritated me was, I always hear talent up the wazoo and never hear any lyrics that mean much to me........that's where that genre falls short.....again, to me anyway.

but, I does respect me some pink to be sure.


And, its all about the money. I think what may be missed in this is how good of a song Bobby McGee is. When you got a great song, you got a great song. She can sing, I dont think she's a phenomenal singer but shes good at what she does.

I;d love to know what her user name was at jpf lol.

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Hey just remembered.

Remember this gal? Now this broad can sing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aiHBJGLinY

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Not to take anything away from Pink, but I'm streaming Eva Cassidy Live at Blues Alley --the video of her live performance---

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTUQy0ijNcc

I have the CD as well...but nothing like seeing her in action..PLUS this video of her live there has different tracks than the CD





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I disagree Bugs...she IS IMO A phenomenal singer and can bounce from genre to genre with ease....but you are right in that she (and her entourage) know what sells to kids these days. If I had my way, she'd be the next blue eyed queen of soul....but unlike over-hyped acts like Madonna, Pink will have what it takes into her 40's and 50's and beyond and put out some stuff the older crowd can enjoy.


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Originally Posted by Bluesriff
I disagree Bugs...she IS IMO A phenomenal singer and can bounce from genre to genre with ease....but you are right in that she (and her entourage) know what sells to kids these days. If I had my way, she'd be the next blue eyed queen of soul....but unlike over-hyped acts like Madonna, Pink will have what it takes into her 40's and 50's and beyond and put out some stuff the older crowd can enjoy.


I dont think there is anything considered "better" than anything else. Singing is strange cause if you just like how the person sounds, thats good enough. I love how Johnny Cash sounds, I love how Tom Petty sounds, I love how Dylan sounds, none of them are great singers, but that have character and uniqueness.

Chrystal Bowersox is a better technical singer, not much doubt about that, but pink has a style and a sound. If somebody likes pink over Bowersox, that's cool, that's just tastes.

I just dont think Pink is famous because of her singing technique.

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Chrystal Bowersox is a better technical singer, not much doubt about that, but pink has a style and a sound. If somebody likes pink over Bowersox, that's cool, that's just tastes.

I just dont think Pink is famous because of her singing technique.


Hey Bugsey,

Disregarding what I like, and what I don't like, are you kidding ?

Me thinks you need an ear transplant when it comes to vocal technique and styling.

I don't really think comparing an AI contestant to a professional entertainer is fair on the poor girl. There is a marked difference in talent between the two which is manifestly obvious.

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Chrystal Bowersox is a better technical singer, not much doubt about that, but pink has a style and a sound. If somebody likes pink over Bowersox, that's cool, that's just tastes.

I just dont think Pink is famous because of her singing technique.


Hey Bugsey,

Disregarding what I like, and what I don't like, are you kidding ?

Me thinks you need an ear transplant when it comes to vocal technique and styling.

I don't really think comparing an AI contestant to a professional entertainer is fair on the poor girl. There is a marked difference in talent between the two which is manifestly obvious.

cheers, niteshift


Thats pretty silly really. And pretty obnoxious. Sonny Bono was a professional singer. Miley Cyrus is a professional singer.

Weird AL, is a professional singer. Joey Ramone was a professional singer.

Carrie Underwood of AI, was once a contestant, now she is a country superstar. She doesnt sing any different.

See the pattern? talent is talent regardless of where it is or how much money it makes.

And please with the ear transplant line, why dont we compare me singing against you? Then we shall see who is in line for an ear transplant.

And you cant seem to debate without hurling insults.

But throw another one, I could use a laugh or two.

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Hey Bugsey,

The line was..... professional entertainer , ( not singer )

And my comment still stands. If you can't hear the difference between the two vocalists presented, that's fine with me.

I'm just fortunate I'm not the club owner and yourself the booking agent,...... as I'd now be bankrupt. smile

To each his own.

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LOL. If comparing vocals, why would you say you cant compare a professional entertainer to an America Idol Contestant?Was entertainment mentioned?

I simply said she sings Bobby McGee better than Pink does. If you dont think so that fine, but why would you start something over it?

She has bigger range, shes got a fuller sound, she can rip like Janis could. Just cause shes not as famous, does not mean she is not a better singer.

Many people who sing jingles are better singers than people who make millions. It's just how it is.

Obviously pink has more going on than just her vocals. Which is why i said shes not famous for her vocals.

Why did I let this guy bait me in to a fight?

Life is about discipline.

Have fun listening to Pink, Shes fun.

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Bugsy, you apparently misread or misunderstood the statement that got your panties in such a bunch.
Niteshift said, and I quote,
"Me thinks you need an ear transplant when it comes to vocal technique and styling", something you seem to agree with, "but pink has a style and a sound".

So, you see? nothing at all about singing ability or who is the better singer, technical or not. Rather, it's presentation, something those who don't become stars lack in some way or form. If they had "IT" they too would be stars.

Before you think I'm a Nightshift apologist, he and I have had our differences over the years. You gotta realize he's on the upside down part of the planet so you have to flip his words right side up so we can better understand them.
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Originally Posted by Bugsey
Hey just remembered.

Remember this gal? Now this broad can sing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aiHBJGLinY


I took a shot and a listen Bugsey.
At about 1:25 mark she's just about reached her limit and the voice is becoming strained.

That does not mean I don't think she can sing, she can, just not as well, IMHO, as you think she can. wink


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Aw, Well,
I seee this video is from a few years ago. No doubt she has a pleasing style. For some great female singer's from the past, Google WHEEL OF FORTUNE by Kay Starr and THE WAYWARD WIND by Gogi Grant. Or FEVER by Peggy Lee.


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Originally Posted by Dak Lander
Originally Posted by Bugsey
Hey just remembered.

Remember this gal? Now this broad can sing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aiHBJGLinY


I took a shot and a listen Bugsey.
At about 1:25 mark she's just about reached her limit and the voice is becoming strained.

That does not mean I don't think she can sing, she can, just not as well, IMHO, as you think she can. wink


Thats probably cause they sing the same song five times per day in rehersals rain or shine, all week. and after competing week after week after, its going to happen.

I think she sings better than YOU think, sorry you had to sit through such torment.

Here's a studio version, just like MS Pink has.

Do you hear any strain? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFF_XYandG8&list=PL44EF9DA27698D5A1


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I like Crystal and I don't see how Bugsy can be wrong here. If he likes the sound of Crystal's voice better than Pink's, then he is entitled to his opinion. I think Pink's version is better, but that is just my opinion.


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I agree with Kevin. They cant be wrong here, If they lik Pinks version better, that's what they like. I like Bowersoxs version but thats my opinion.

But there are certain things that are not opinion like range, improv skills, originality.

Basicly Pinks version leans toward Dolly's version, Bowersox leans towards Janis.

Some people just like a singer for whatever reason. That's a different thing than actual chops.

Some people think Keith Richards is a better guitarist than Eric Clapton. Musicians know thats not true, but personal tastes may lead one to like Keith better.

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Originally Posted by Bugsey
I agree with Kevin. They cant be wrong here, If they lik Pinks version better, that's what they like. I like Bowersoxs version but thats my opinion.

But there are certain things that are not opinion like range, improv skills, originality.

Basically Pinks version leans toward Dolly's version, Bowersox leans towards Janis.

Some people just like a singer for whatever reason. That's a different thing than actual chops.

Some people think Keith Richards is a better guitarist than Eric Clapton. Musicians know thats not true, but personal tastes may lead one to like Keith better.


Hey Bugsey,

It's all good mate, I just feel the song you put up in contrast is nowhere near the standard of Ms Pink.

I guess that comes from working with or producing a lot of female vocalists over the years, and essentially it's all about feel, and an essence which is portrayed, let alone vocal style and training. We won't even mention "talent".

If you think that Ms Bowersoxs has anywhere near the "range, improv skills, originality" of the Pink track presented, than in my own way, I have to disagree, primarily on those points alone. There's simply a huge difference. ( and probably unfair to compare someone who is starting out as opposed to a more seasoned performer )

Put it this way, I know who I'd rather work with in a studio setting. Maybe the other studio guys could put up an opinion, to explain better.

cheers, niteshift

PS - came across this version of the same song. Hmmm.... ouch !





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A recording artist's technical ability as a singer has practically no relationship to whether or not I like them. Many of my favorite singers would rate rather low in technical ability.

Here are a guy and a gal I like better than a whole room full of great technical singers.

http://youtu.be/F5axlwCBXC8





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Originally Posted by niteshift
Originally Posted by Bugsey
I agree with Kevin. They cant be wrong here, If they lik Pinks version better, that's what they like. I like Bowersoxs version but thats my opinion.

But there are certain things that are not opinion like range, improv skills, originality.

Basically Pinks version leans toward Dolly's version, Bowersox leans towards Janis.

Some people just like a singer for whatever reason. That's a different thing than actual chops.

Some people think Keith Richards is a better guitarist than Eric Clapton. Musicians know thats not true, but personal tastes may lead one to like Keith better.


Hey Bugsey,

It's all good mate, I just feel the song you put up in contrast is nowhere near the standard of Ms Pink.

I guess that comes from working with or producing a lot of female vocalists over the years, and essentially it's all about feel, and an essence which is portrayed, let alone vocal style and training. We won't even mention "talent".

If you think that Ms Bowersoxs has anywhere near the "range, improv skills, originality" of the Pink track presented, than in my own way, I have to disagree, primarily on those points alone. There's simply a huge difference. ( and probably unfair to compare someone who is starting out as opposed to a more seasoned performer )

Put it this way, I know who I'd rather work with in a studio setting. Maybe the other studio guys could put up an opinion, to explain better.

cheers, niteshift

PS - came across this version of the same song. Hmmm.... ouch !






Everybody here has some amazing history of music, but nobody ever has to say what it is.

Would you mind allowing me to listen to some of the female singers you have produced, that shine light years ahead of Bowersox? lol

Delusion is a not a river in Egypt. Oh wait thats denial.

If chrstyal Bowersox called u and wanted you to produce her you would actually have one of the better vocalists in the country here. And you'd probably crap your pants!

She cant suck, she made it out of realtive obscurity to runner up out of hundreds of thousands of people who tried.

Simon Cowell even liked her http://www.examiner.com/article/cry...ersion-says-american-idol-s-simon-cowell

But please allowe me to hear these AMAZING vocalists, otherwise it's a silly argument.

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Originally Posted by Mike Dunbar
A recording artist's technical ability as a singer has practically no relationship to whether or not I like them. Many of my favorite singers would rate rather low in technical ability.

Here are a guy and a gal I like better than a whole room full of great technical singers.

http://youtu.be/F5axlwCBXC8





^ This.

Most of my favorite singers would never make it past the first round of any singing competetion. Steven Tyler said that no way Bob Dylan would make it. And were talking Dylan here one of the great artists of all time.

id rather hear a great voice speak to mme than all the vocal acrobats. But in competetions technique is one of the main things they can judge on. Vocal control, timing, runs, etc.

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Hey Bugsey,

I really can't be bothered anymore with a nameless person who doesn't provide a link to their work.

As for "If chrstyal Bowersox called u and wanted you to produce her you would actually have one of the better vocalists in the country here. And you'd probably crap your pants!" , that's simply not the case.

I do stumble across the odd "famous" person from time to time, and I must say, they have much more grace than yourself.

The reason folks don't fully explain stuff here is because it is a public bulliton board. Private conversation is not repeated.

Crap my pants ? Get real buddy, and realise that no-one is interested in an anonymous internet troll.

no cheers, niteshift

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Originally Posted by niteshift
Hey Bugsey,

I really can't be bothered anymore with a nameless person who doesn't provide a link to their work.

As for "If chrstyal Bowersox called u and wanted you to produce her you would actually have one of the better vocalists in the country here. And you'd probably crap your pants!" , that's simply not the case.

I do stumble across the odd "famous" person from time to time, and I must say, they have much more grace than yourself.

The reason folks don't fully explain stuff here is because it is a public bulliton board. Private conversation is not repeated.

FOI - As a point of disclosure, I was invited along with my family to the green room for one of her performances, as the artist has a long association with Oz, which I'm not going to discuss with you here.

Crap my pants ? Get real buddy, and realise that no-one is interested in an anonymous internet troll.

no cheers, niteshift


You cant be bothered? You have been bothered, deeply. And you keep talking. It was I who didnt bother with you, but you decided to start a fight.

Links to my work are irrelavent. It does not matter if I suck, Im not making the claims you are.

Remember, you were the one saying that in all your producing experience, you wouldnt want to work with Bowersox. I on the other hand KNOW im nobody, and Im happy with that

Yes me too, I run into famous people all the time. Why just the last year I was at Mcdonalds, and wouldnt you know it, Paul McCartney walked in.

I said Hi Mr McCartney, Im a big fan, and he said, "oh cmon now, were amongst friends, you call me Paul"

And it was like the two of us were friends forever, real down to earth guy. He even offered to pay for my happy meal. I said now Mr, I mean Paul, I dont expect you to pay just because we are fast friends, Tell ya what, Ill pay half of mine?

To which he agreed. We have been friends ever since, he sends me rough demos to evaluate his new songs, and I dont hold anything back, i let him hear the good bad and ugly.

Yeah, and I see Mick Jaggar all the time at the newspaper stand. I once asked him why he buys his own paper, and he says he just likes to get out, cant be couped up in his mansion.

Yeah I know so many famous people through both of these two friends now.

Delusion....




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Humm,
Now that you mention Troll's. Have you been here Bugsey under other names? You are beginning to sound like a former troll. You have no profile as the former person. Who are you?


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Originally Posted by Ray E. Strode
Humm,
Now that you mention Troll's. Have you been here Bugsey under other names? You are beginning to sound like a former troll. You have no profile as the former person. Who are you?


I woukdnt call him a troll per say, he just likes to toot his own horn.

I guess, he's a songwriter? I dont know, I havent heard any of his work or read and of his lyrics, and I have read almost all of them, which is why Im here.

But how bout yourself? Do you write anything?

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Bugsey,

I don't seem to think that you understand, that there are REAL industry people on this site here, who do REAL jobs and just do their work.

It's a job.

And when they express their opinion, it is through genuine experience in the field that they have worked in. And they, hopefully, give experience, and interact with others who wish to do the same.

I don't claim anything. What I choose to say here is very real, and very verifiable through any number of different sources. I'm in the phone book, look me up.

You seem to have a problem that industry folk and folk just starting out, can't actually combine, have interesting dialogue, and work for a common purpose of writing songs.

You can't actually believe that there are people here who have been doing stuff their whole lives, some of whom are "famous" and some of whom are not.

I take exception with you, because I would like to think that I am not the one who is delusional.

I've lived it. I'm quite quiet now, but I have a partner who still lives it, and at a very high level.

Is that a problem ? Because, if it is, I'll just not bother any more, just like MANY professional people who can't be bothered with this site anymore because of the ignorance displayed of those who have done, and display nothing.

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Bobby McGee is maybe my favorite song all-time. I liked Pink's voice and version until she starting riffing, if that's the right word. Chrystal did the same and I didn't like her voice as well. I hated Joplin's version. I like my Bobby straight up and would still rather listen to Kris do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-J7mLyD3yc

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Originally Posted by niteshift
Bugsey,

I don't seem to think that you understand, that there are REAL industry people on this site here, who do REAL jobs and just do their work.

It's a job.

And when they express their opinion, it is through genuine experience in the field that they have worked in. And they, hopefully, give experience, and interact with others who wish to do the same.

I don't claim anything. What I choose to say here is very real, and very verifiable through any number of different sources. I'm in the phone book, look me up.

You seem to have a problem that industry folk and folk just starting out, can't actually combine, have interesting dialogue, and work for a common purpose of writing songs.

You can't actually believe that there are people here who have been doing stuff their whole lives, some of whom are "famous" and some of whom are not.

I take exception with you, because I would like to think that I am not the one who is delusional.

I've lived it. I'm quite quiet now, but I have a partner who still lives it, and at a very high level.

Is that a problem ? Because, if it is, I'll just not bother any more, just like MANY professional people who can't be bothered with this site anymore because of the ignorance displayed of those who have done, and display nothing.

no cheers, niteshift


All true. All im saying is, ones experience with the music business, does not mean they can write, sing, or play. It does not mean they can say a truly gifted singer, is not great, simply because they produce.

Writing and playing begins in your room as a kid, you dont know anybody, all you know is making music. So if you want to argue with me over a contract, or some business ideas, ok, you might have me.

But I certainly can tell you without fail that bowersox can sing her face off.

I know music and sports. Other than that Im an idiot.

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Humm,
Have I written anything. Yes. You can listen to some of my songs. Open the Industry forum and look under New Web Site. Now I will go to the mP3, Lyric Boards and see if you have posted anything ! Cheers!


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Originally Posted by Mike Dunbar
A recording artist's technical ability as a singer has practically no relationship to whether or not I like them. Many of my favorite singers would rate rather low in technical ability.

Here are a guy and a gal I like better than a whole room full of great technical singers.

http://youtu.be/F5axlwCBXC8






Oh Yeah! I have that concert on DVD.


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Originally Posted by Ray E. Strode
Humm,
Have I written anything. Yes. You can listen to some of my songs. Open the Industry forum and look under New Web Site. Now I will go to the mP3, Lyric Boards and see if you have posted anything ! Cheers!


Ok let me rephrase, do you POST anything? You got nearly 5000 posts, been here since 2001, if your not posting songs, critiquing them etc, what are you doing here all this time?

If im logged in, im going to be in a song section, either posting a lyric, a tune which takes longer, or giving a critique.

I enjoy that, I wouldnt enjoy the way you spend time here.

Ok I checked your website, Geocities still exists?

Id say you have some pretty good rough demos there, but the singer really needs to watch her pitch it's off nearly the entire way. Another blue song is way too pitchy, I know im not qualified to say that being im a nobody


Tighten them up, good luck pitching. I'll be ready for your retaliation. Might not retaliate back, im gonna be busy, but fire away, you big ole lug you!

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Originally Posted by Bugsey
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Hey just remembered.

Remember this gal? Now this broad can sing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aiHBJGLinY


I took a shot and a listen Bugsey.
At about 1:25 mark she's just about reached her limit and the voice is becoming strained.

That does not mean I don't think she can sing, she can, just not as well, IMHO, as you think she can. wink


Thats probably cause they sing the same song five times per day in rehersals rain or shine, all week. and after competing week after week after, its going to happen.

I think she sings better than YOU think, sorry you had to sit through such torment.

Here's a studio version, just like MS Pink has.

Do you hear any strain? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFF_XYandG8&list=PL44EF9DA27698D5A1



Actually yes, in a couple of spots. I also noted she eased up in a couple of spots where, on the AI video, she was straining a bit.

Understand something here. I'm not saying she's a lousy singer. I don't recall anyone alluding to that. She's not and with time in the trade she should improve. What was discussed was style and presentation. Somewhere you fell off that track.
I really don't understand why your panties got in a bunch anyway because some of us felt Pink's version is better? Do you have a stake in Bowersox' career?


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Originally Posted by Dak Lander
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Originally Posted by Bugsey
Hey just remembered.

Remember this gal? Now this broad can sing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aiHBJGLinY


I took a shot and a listen Bugsey.
At about 1:25 mark she's just about reached her limit and the voice is becoming strained.

That does not mean I don't think she can sing, she can, just not as well, IMHO, as you think she can. wink


Thats probably cause they sing the same song five times per day in rehersals rain or shine, all week. and after competing week after week after, its going to happen.

I think she sings better than YOU think, sorry you had to sit through such torment.

Here's a studio version, just like MS Pink has.

Do you hear any strain? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFF_XYandG8&list=PL44EF9DA27698D5A1



Actually yes, in a couple of spots. I also noted she eased up in a couple of spots where, on the AI video, she was straining a bit.

Understand something here. I'm not saying she's a lousy singer. I don't recall anyone alluding to that. She's not and with time in the trade she should improve. What was discussed was style and presentation. Somewhere you fell off that track.
I really don't understand why your panties got in a bunch anyway because some of us felt Pink's version is better? Do you have a stake in Bowersox' career?


telling the truth is not your forte is it? lol

The panties were bunched when I, me, said I didnt think Pink was a PHENOMENAL singer, and that she had other factors which made her a star.

It was a couple of you who got ANGRY at this. WHY? I dont know Kevin didnt understand it either. But evidently, if somebody "important" here has one opinion, saying the opposite will send in the clowns.

Please re read. Nowhere were my panties bunched that you like Pink. I think shes very good, just not my kind of music.

Check those panties, and lets do this football draft so i can finance my new album. Ill even give you a plug "Financed by Mr Dak"

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Lighten up folks and let it go. Is it worth arguing over? No one's mind is going to change.


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????? Didn't want others to see the malarkey?


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Originally Posted by Bugsey
Originally Posted by Dak Lander
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Thats probably cause they sing the same song five times per day in rehersals rain or shine, all week. and after competing week after week after, its going to happen.

Oh, poor baby. singing the same song five times per day, week after week? I don't suppose others who are learning new songs have the same problem.....

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Actually yes, in a couple of spots. I also noted she eased up in a couple of spots where, on the AI video, she was straining a bit.
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I really don't understand why your panties got in a bunch anyway because some of us felt Pink's version is better? Do you have a stake in Bowersox' career?


telling the truth is not your forte is it? lol

Not telling the truth? Where exactly?

The panties were bunched when I, me, said I didnt think Pink was a PHENOMENAL singer, and that she had other factors which made her a star.

It was a couple of you who got ANGRY at this. WHY? I dont know Kevin didnt understand it either. But evidently, if somebody "important" here has one opinion, saying the opposite will send in the clowns.

I don't know that anyone else has been angry about anything here. You're the one who took exception to our conclusions about your apparent favorite AI star.

Please re read. Nowhere were my panties bunched that you like Pink. I think shes very good, just not my kind of music.

Ah, your panties bunched, or maybe you sharted in them when Niteshift laid the ear transplant statement on you.

Check those panties, and lets do this football draft so i can finance my new album. Ill even give you a plug "Financed by Mr Dak"

C ya's! [/quote]

I agree about the football but Brian has not yet started a JPFolks league.

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Originally Posted by Bugsey
All true. All im saying is, ones experience with the music business, does not mean they can write, sing, or play. It does not mean they can say a truly gifted singer, is not great, simply because they produce.

Writing and playing begins in your room as a kid, you dont know anybody, all you know is making music. So if you want to argue with me over a contract, or some business ideas, ok, you might have me.

But I certainly can tell you without fail that bowersox can sing her face off.

I know music and sports. Other than that Im an idiot.


Ah man, that just really says it all doesn't it ?

Obviously you are never going to be able to tell the difference between different levels of professional vocal accomplishment, and there's really no point in trying to educate you, because you know it all from writing in your bedroom.

Perhaps my rather flippant comments about ear transplants have a point after all.

*shrugs*

Oh well, back to my "delusional" world.

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Geeze..all these Ruffled Feathers... JMO but the Gold Standard for singin' "Me & Bobby McGhee" was set Ages-Ago by Janis Joplin.
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