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#1167218 - 08/01/20 05:37 PM I Been There  
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https://www.reverbnation.com/pollychase/song/32000504-i-been-there


chorus:
And there's lightning in the evening sky,
thunder over the plain, there's dark clouds gathered
everywhere, hard times have come again.


Well I been there, I been there, I been there.



Those seeds you planted didn't grow, and all the fields are dry,
somebody musta cast a spell, 'cause everything is dyin'.


And the babies are cryin' the wolf is +howlin at the door,
an' you're running out of reasons to keep trying anymore.


Things are goin nowhere, things are out of place,
makes you wonder if maybe somebody fixed the race.


If anyone ever ca-alls, it's more bad news every time.
You wanna change your number, but you don't wanna change your mind.


And you cannot understand why no one understands,
why they don't open doors for you or get behind your plans.


And you can't understand why there's no place left to belong.
ah there'll be no right answers long as the questions all are wrong.

#1167219 - 08/01/20 06:17 PM Re: I Been There [Re: Songbird52]  
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Hi Polly:

I read the lyric and then listened. Glad to see you posting again. After hearing the song... I believe this one would fit Alison Krauss' style of Bluegrass very well. (Good luck on getting past the Gate Keepers... LOL!) It has a nostalgic quality to it and the "message" is more real than uplifting... but every now and then, we need to listen to ideas and songs that don't exactly bring us warm or fuzzy feelings.

My ears tell me it isn't 100% ready now but you are headed in the right path. Good luck with all your creative efforts.

----Dave

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Originally Posted by Dave Rice
Hi Polly:

I read the lyric and then listened. Glad to see you posting again. After hearing the song... I believe this one would fit Alison Krauss' style of Bluegrass very well. (Good luck on getting past the Gate Keepers... LOL!) It has a nostalgic quality to it and the "message" is more real than uplifting... but every now and then, we need to listen to ideas and songs that don't exactly bring us warm or fuzzy feelings.

My ears tell me it isn't 100% ready now but you are headed in the right path. Good luck with all your creative efforts.

----Dave


Thank you Dave! In general, I don't write uplifting songs, except for my gospel songs. I guess maybe because that's how it is with most traditional and bluegrass music. I do get some complaints about it, but I let other songwriters provide the warm and fuzzies.

Yes I like the Alison Krauss style very much. Well I guess I like most real bluegrass. Bill Monroe, Stanley Brothers, Flatt and Scruggs, etc. I love all that. Not really trying to imitate it, but it has just soaked into my soul I guess.

#1167224 - 08/01/20 08:15 PM Re: I Been There [Re: Songbird52]  
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Hi Polly,

All music doesn't have to be happy. In fact the #1 most requested country song ever remains "He Stopped Loving Her Today". Yours is what used to be termed a "Lament", lamenting the times and troubles we go through. I write a # of these too, but most are country. And yes this is bluegrass singer/songwriter. I would like to hear a little instrumental break somewhere in there, showing off your finger-pickin'.


Have a goodun,

John W. Selleck BMI Songwriter
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#1167226 - 08/01/20 08:31 PM Re: I Been There [Re: John W. Selleck]  
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Originally Posted by John W. Selleck
Hi Polly,

All music doesn't have to be happy. In fact the #1 most requested country song ever remains "He Stopped Loving Her Today". Yours is what used to be termed a "Lament", lamenting the times and troubles we go through. I write a # of these too, but most are country. And yes this is bluegrass singer/songwriter. I would like to hear a little instrumental break somewhere in there, showing off your finger-pickin'.


Thank you John. Yes, He Stopped Loving Her Today is a wonderful tearjerker. I would rather hear a sad song any day.

Yes maybe this one could use an instrumental break. I did a lot of guitar breaks simultaneous with the singing, so didn't know if it needed one. But maybe it does.

#1167282 - 08/03/20 03:17 PM Re: I Been There [Re: Songbird52]  
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I thought I would add that this isn't really supposed to be an unhappy song. It's sort of saying that we all have bad experiences, but we might come out of it with more wisdom and empathy. And we also learn mostly from bad experiences.

For me, it is very important to acknowledge the dark sides of life, and how they teach us to overcome.

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Hi again, Polly:

Never feel like you need to explain your song's message, whether sad, euphoric or anywhere in-between. Every now and then some of us write a "Lady or the Tiger" (poor example) song... and it may help to give the listener a boost about what you were thinking... but I believe your work stands very well on it's own merits.

Today's "Music Market" is not overly-fond of sad songs... but show me someone who has not experienced sadness, whether it be a little or a lot, and I'll show you someone who hasn't lived.

All the best, ----Dave

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Originally Posted by Dave Rice
Hi again, Polly:

Never feel like you need to explain your song's message, whether sad, euphoric or anywhere in-between. Every now and then some of us write a "Lady or the Tiger" (poor example) song... and it may help to give the listener a boost about what you were thinking... but I believe your work stands very well on it's own merits.

Today's "Music Market" is not overly-fond of sad songs... but show me someone who has not experienced sadness, whether it be a little or a lot, and I'll show you someone who hasn't lived.

All the best, ----Dave


Yes, thank you Dave. I agree we should not have to explain the meaning of our songs. That's kind of like having to explain a joke. But I just thought I would try to clarify it a little here, speaking to other songwriters.

It is true most people now days seem to prefer happy songs, although it was not always like that. Just the opposite. Why have things changed so much in that regard? Well I have some theories.

I do sometimes get complaints at the open mics, about not being uplifting, but I don't care. Without sadness and loss there is no way we could know anything about love or happiness.

#1167409 - 08/06/20 09:11 PM Re: I Been There [Re: Songbird52]  
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Polly,

This is a genre you do quite well . . . as Dave noted, a very nostalgic feel to this. And yes, a sad song, but sad songs are often the best kind. Keep doing what you do!

My best to you,

Deej

#1167413 - 08/06/20 09:16 PM Re: I Been There [Re: Songbird52]  
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Thanks Deej!

Next time maybe I should post one of my silly songs. But I do have a lot more sad ones.


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