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Tink2
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posted 05-01-2001 12:11     Click Here to See the Profile for Tink2   Click Here to Email Tink2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, today's lyric was inspired by another mundane occurance in my life...Laundry. It's fresh out of the hopper, so suggestions are most welcome.

One Clothespin At a Time
Cindy Miller
© 2001

Verse
She was a single mom
He lived in the house next door
They shared a common fence line
That turned into something more

Raisin’ kids alone was tough
But each morning was a gift
Cause he’d be getting home then
From working the graveyard shift

Chorus
And twice a week at half past three
They met in her backyard, faithfully
She’d be hangin blue jeans, he was kickin dirt
She’d reach in the basket, pull out another shirt
There was always a mountain of laundry to climb
And so they fell in love, one clothespin at a time

Verse
She’d been married once
To a man with roamin eyes
Gave him a son and daughter
Then he hung her out to cry

His first marriage crumbled
And he was takin it bad
He wanted to be so much more
Than just a weekend dad

Chorus
Still twice a week at half past three
They met in her backyard, faithfully
She’d be hangin blue jeans, he was kickin dirt
She’d reach in the basket, pull out another shirt
There was always a mountain of laundry to climb
And so they fell in love, one clothespin at a time

Bridge
It wasn’t a matter of uncertainty
It was just a matter of time
That they’d build their new family
Thanks to that clothesline

And every day they spend together
Every day their passion grows
Cause they have the rest of forever
And tons of dirty clothes

Modified Chorus
So, twice a week at half past three
They meet in their backyard, faithfully
She’s hangin those blue jeans, and he’s kickin dirt
She reaches in the basket, pulls out his work shirt
There will always be a mountain of laundry to climb
But that’s how they fell in love, one clothespin at a time

[This message has been edited by Tink2 (edited 05-01-2001).]

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BeverlyRead
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posted 05-01-2001 12:42     Click Here to See the Profile for BeverlyRead   Click Here to Email BeverlyRead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tink,

Hanging clothes on the line was never this interesting for me. What a great hook and story.

I like the verses and the flow of the story. I like the choruses, but I can't seem to read them. I think I am very locked into 4/8/16/etc., and when the number of lines is not one of those, I have trouble. But it's probably just me. I see a lot of things written that don't seem to stay in the 4/8/16/etc. format. Also, if I heard this with music, some of my confusion may be cleared up.

I'm just going to say that this is a solid idea, and good luck.

Beverly

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Tink2
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posted 05-01-2001 13:07     Click Here to See the Profile for Tink2   Click Here to Email Tink2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Beverly!

Thanks for the read. Sometimes a hook comes from the strangest place. My husband came home for lunch and I was clicking away on the keyboard and he stood behind me reading the words and said, "You think this one up as you were hanging out the clothes?" He's always wondering where I come up with things.

Your question about length of lines could very well be valid. I don't have music, but I had kind of a rhythm going as I was reading it, so I think it flows "fairly" well, but I won't really know until(unless) a composer takes a shine to it.

Thanks for your kind words and for reading.


Tink

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Off Kilter
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posted 05-01-2001 13:27     Click Here to See the Profile for Off Kilter   Click Here to Email Off Kilter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Tink,

I always enjoy taking a look at your stuff tink, you have a real gift for putting your stories together in a nice package. The only think i might suggest is 'lot line' seems a little out of place. I will have to think on suggestions for it though. Perhaps just 'fence' or something.

as a composer, I wouldn't worry too much about the chorus. It makes it more interesting to have a turn of rhythm to play with.

Keep up the great writing, and tell your husband to keep on guessing! It is giving you some great ideas!

Off Kilter

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Tink2
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posted 05-01-2001 13:58     Click Here to See the Profile for Tink2   Click Here to Email Tink2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Off!

Thanks for reading and for the kind words. I just love it when you look! Lot could very easily be changed to fence if need be. Maybe "lot line" is more commonly used around here, cause we talk about "lot lines" with our neighbors all the time. Trying to talk them into lettin us extend ours a couple of feet onto theirs....

I appreciate the feedback from a musician, I'm never really sure if something will work musically or not.

Thanks again,

Tink

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posted 05-01-2001 14:07     Click Here to See the Profile for Hurley   Click Here to Email Hurley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tink....
Great idea
Round here...they don't say (lot line either)although it's easy to see what your referin to...your writing is getting real good Tink..not that it was EVER BAD ...you are just continually coming up with such strong stuff.
Pam

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Tink2
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posted 05-01-2001 14:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Tink2   Click Here to Email Tink2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Pam,

'preciate the comments and as you can see, I've decided to change it to fence line. Seems to be a more universal phrase. Thanks for the input.

And thank you for saying such nice nice things!!!


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MR Bulk
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posted 05-01-2001 16:13     Click Here to See the Profile for MR Bulk   Click Here to Email MR Bulk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strong. Tight. Highly commercial with the right female country voice. Why have him kick dirt "alla" the time (esp. last modif. chorus)?

No time to write much today -- I'm RECORDING.

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Best Regards and Aloha,

Charlie

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Tink2
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posted 05-01-2001 16:20     Click Here to See the Profile for Tink2   Click Here to Email Tink2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Charlie,

Thanks for the kind words and I spose I could change the dirt line and what she's pullin outta the basket. Shirt is a tough word to rhyme.

Recording, eh? Sounds intriguing. Hope all is going well!!

Aloha backatcha!

Tink

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posted 05-01-2001 22:03     Click Here to See the Profile for bama43   Click Here to Email bama43     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Cindy! You're really on a roll this week! This song is cute as a button and waaay original!! Excellent work!! I see you have edited out "lot line" (I understood it but did think it could be improved) Fence line is better but is it possible you could even use "clothes line" (I have seen plenty of apartments, duplexes, etc. with a common clothesline but maybe not too many houses??)
Just a thought.
My favorite line:
"Then he hung her out to cry"
Killer! Would have been a good line in any song but in one about clothespins/clotheslines it is brilliant!!
Another keeper!!

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Kaley Willow
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posted 05-01-2001 22:31     Click Here to See the Profile for Kaley Willow   Click Here to Email Kaley Willow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tink..postively loved this..and I agree this seems really ORIGINAL, and commercial imo
you changed it to clothesline?..that would have been my suggestion too..,

really super work..here..,

Kaley

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posted 05-01-2001 23:11     Click Here to See the Profile for Judy   Click Here to Email Judy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tink, the title threw me at first, didn't click what a clothespin was - we call them "pegs" down here. However, once I started reading it all became clear - wonderful story and such a simple idea, and simply written. I liked the "kickin' dirt" line. Cheers,Judy

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posted 05-02-2001 00:12     Click Here to See the Profile for MR Bulk   Click Here to Email MR Bulk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tink2:
Hi Charlie,

Thanks for the kind words and I spose I could change the dirt line and what she's pullin outta the basket. Shirt is a tough word to rhyme.

Recording, eh? Sounds intriguing. Hope all is going well!!

Aloha backatcha!
;)
Tink


Kickin' dirt is Grrreat the first time or two when they was meetin' up (bein' shy an' all, plus gettin' his courage up, etc.), but only after they settled in together was when I didn't really get it. But otherwise great, so mebbe change it just in the last modif. chorus?

Aloha Backatcha Backatcha!

Charlie

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Best Regards and Aloha,

Charlie

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posted 05-02-2001 03:34     Click Here to See the Profile for Anthony   Click Here to Email Anthony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Tink2! I like this one a lot! Let me run through it and see what comes out in the wash.....

Verse
She was a single mom
He lived in the house next door
They shared a common fence line
That turned into something more

I wiah there was a better way of stating that third line, but I guess there isn't. And the fourth line telegraphs the whole rest of the story! I'd change that, but to what, I dunno.

Raisin’ kids alone was tough
But each morning was a gift
Cause he’d be getting home then
From working the graveyard shift

Fine.....

Chorus
And twice a week at half past three
They met in her backyard, faithfully

How about:

And twice a week at half past one
They met and made their chores more fun

Or something like that? Just a thought.

She’d be hangin HER jeans, HE'D BE kickin dirt

Kickin' dirt from where?

She’d reach in HER basket AND pull out A SKIRT
There was always a mountain of laundry to climb
(And-- delete) So they fell in love, one clothespin at a time

Cute chorus!

Verse
She’d been married once
To a man with roamin eyes
Gave him a son and daughter
Then (he-- delete) hung her out to cry

Cute last line!

His first marriage crumbled
And he was takin it bad
He wanted to be so much more
Than just a weekend dad

Chorus
SO twice a week at half past three
They met in her backyard, faithfully
She’d be hangin HER jeans, HE'D BE kickin dirt
She’d reach in HIS basket AND pull out A shirt

You like the subtle change in that line from how I wrote it in the previous chorus?

There was always a mountain of laundry to climb
(And-- delete) So they fell in love, one clothespin at a time

Bridge
It wasn’t a matter of uncertainty
It was just a matter of time
That they’d build their new family
Thanks to that clothesline

"Matter of time/that clothesline" doesn't meter well, and that third line is crying out for some kinda of laundry metaphor. "That they'd hang their heartaches out to dry".... something like that. You can think of something better.

And every day they spend together
Every day their passion grows
Cause they have the rest of forever
And tons of dirty clothes

Adequate, but could be punched up.

Modified Chorus
So, twice a week at half past three
They meet in their backyard, faithfully
She’s hangin those blue jeans, and he’s kickin dirt
She reaches in the basket, pulls out his work shirt
There will always be a mountain of laundry to climb
But that’s how they fell in love, one clothespin at a time

You've got the right idea for the final chorus, but a couple that lives together doesn't "meet" in the backyard, per se. You also might want to change a couple more lines in the final chorus to make it more different, since their situation is so different by then.

All in all, this is really good, and has an air of reality to it that makes a lyric commercial. Good luck with it!

Anthony

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posted 05-02-2001 05:45     Click Here to See the Profile for Wirdaz   Click Here to Email Wirdaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is one I wish I had written, so very beautiful and sweet.

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posted 05-02-2001 06:01     Click Here to See the Profile for greydog   Click Here to Email greydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mornin' Tink,

I'm late to the party again. Don't see too many clotheslines anymore...course you don't see too many stories in small town papers where some pervert has broken into a laundry room to steal a woman's undies out of her dryer either.

Good song, a different idea with a twist on the laundrymat theme. Enjoyed the read a bunch.

dawg

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posted 05-02-2001 09:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Tink2   Click Here to Email Tink2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Bama!

I guess being from small town Iowa, it was just natural to write "lot line", then it seemed a pretty viable solution to switch to "fence line" for clarity's sake. Someone else mentioned on another board, I think, to switch it to clothesline, but I'm not sure about that. I didn't want them to be sharing the clothesline, I wanted it to be that he'd venture over into "her" backyard while she was hanging clothes, just to talk to her. Like he was making an effort. BUT...I haven't settled on anything yet and may rewrite some of the verses to clear things up a bit. Thank you so much for all the kind words, it is much appreciated.

Kaley, thank you for you nice comments on this lyric. The strangest and most mundane things seem to inspire me. Got lots of things running through my lil head all the time.

Judy, "Pegs", eh?? Well, that makes sense. Glad you liked it and thanks for the kind words!!

Charlie, thanks again for the wonderful suggestions. I'm still "kickin" that line around...

Thanks all!

Tink

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posted 05-02-2001 09:20     Click Here to See the Profile for Tink2   Click Here to Email Tink2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Anthony,

As always, you've got some good points and good suggestions. I'm still mulling this one over a bit and I printed off your suggestions so I can consider them in the rewrite. Thanks so much for taking the extra time to fine tooth comb it, I really appreciate it!!

Wirdaz,

Thank you for your vote of confidence with this lyric. It just popped into my head as I was hanging clothes on the clothesline yesterday. At first it was gonna be "Clothesline Love", but "Love" is a tough word to rhyme with.

Dawg, you always got something interesting to add to the fray, don't ya!!?? Stealing women's undies....shame on you... Thanks for reading and for the kind words, it's always appreciated!

Thanks again to all!


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posted 05-02-2001 09:31     Click Here to See the Profile for TampaStan   Click Here to Email TampaStan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
G'mornin' TinkaBella!

THOUGHT I Posted on this Lyric Last Night...Musta been on The Other Board, eh?

Anyways, I LOVED this Angle & the Writin' Job, Only "Nit" was the "Kickin' Dirt" line, recommended changin' to "DIGGIN' Dirt" which makes More Sense...the Guy GARDENS, Right? (What a CATCH, Eh?)

Story's So SWEET, I'll just Wave my Mornin' Cornflakes past the TV Screen, eh? :-)

"KUDOS" & A
Big Hug,
Stan

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posted 05-02-2001 17:14     Click Here to See the Profile for Tink2   Click Here to Email Tink2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Stan! Yep, you critiqued this one on the "other board". I appreciate you doing it twice. Gonna work on that dirt line, it needs some help.

Thanks again, again....

Big hug backatcha,

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posted 05-02-2001 18:41     Click Here to See the Profile for Corey   Click Here to Email Corey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tink. This is one of those I can say is very well written, very commercial and darn original while at the same time saying it's not quite my cup o' tea. You have a gift 'tis true, girl. This line: "Then he hung her out to cry" is either classic or classically cheesy...I haven't figured out which yet, but it's creative, to say the least. Anyway, nice job! Keep up the good housekeeping!

Corey

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posted 05-02-2001 20:27     Click Here to See the Profile for adw246   Click Here to Email adw246     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Cindy,

I have to weigh in on hung her out to cry--best line in the whole song. I love it. It has everything. It's a twist on an old cliche, which is very popular in country music and it pays on the whole laundry theme. This is very cute! You've gotten some good suggestions. At first I thought Anthony's suggestion about changing the laundry time to half past one wasn't good because who gets off work then, but you already said he works the graveyard shift. Half past one has potential...the kids are away at school, gives the romance a chance to blossom. Anyway, I really like the lyrics and the whole idea behind it.

Ashleigh

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posted 05-02-2001 22:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Tink2   Click Here to Email Tink2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Corey...

Can't wait to write one that's your "cup 'o tea" Hey? You ever read my "Closet Biker Chick" or "Shameless Girls at Shayne's"? Seriously, since it isn't your style, I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to read and comment on it!!

Ashleigh...

What a doll you are!! Thanks so much for the kind words. I'm still kicking around some tweaking ideas. Appreciate the look and the comments.


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posted 05-03-2001 01:56     Click Here to See the Profile for MR Bulk   Click Here to Email MR Bulk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ya know what, Tink? If you could whittle the chorus down to four lines, all with the same number of syllables and stress points, yet keep all the juicy content (yeah, so easily said, lil' different Doing it, ain't it?), this could be a Country hit. I just heard "Lessons Learned" on CMT today and it ain't any better'n this! ('cept fer a four-line chorus...hee hee)

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posted 05-03-2001 06:51     Click Here to See the Profile for Tink2   Click Here to Email Tink2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mr. Bulk,

I have to admit, it would be difficult to shave the chorus and still maintain all the references I intended, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Sounds like a challenge and I thrive on challenges....you'll realize that about me as you get to know me.


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