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Brian Austin Whitney Bard of the Boards Posts: 3733 |
Folks, Here's the Top 50 Lyrics which will be moving on to the 2nd Round judging. These were determined by all of YOU and your peers.. the participants of the Lyric Award category, who voted this year. The Top 8 Lyrics from Pages 1-5 plus the Top 3 from page 6 were automatically forwarded. Oddly enough, there were zero ties for these slots. There were an additional 17 lyrics which were vying til the very end for one of the final 7 discretionary slots. We used a series of tie breakers which included the following (not necessarily in this order.. we can't give away ALL the secrets): For the remaining 7 slots, after their final score, we also used these tie breakers: 1. First Place Votes Some statistics/factoids: The Most Points ANY Lyric Got was: 76 (by 2 different lyrics) Out of all the votes, no voter got all of the top 5 correct on any page. In fact, only 2 voters even had all 5 of their votes fall in the top 8 lyrics. To me, that's a sign we got a really diverse set of viewpoints/styles represented in the second round. It also should be some comfort to those who didn't make it into the Top 50. There was certainly no "obvious" top 5 Lyrics on a given page to any 1 person. Below are the 50 Lyrics that finished with the most votes and/or won the tie breakers in the order of their original Lyric Post. We seem to have a wide mix of regular lyric board members and new folks as well as a diverse array of styles, viewpoints and subject matters in the lyrics below. Remember, these are NOT the final 2004 Award Nominees. These are simply the lyrics still in the running for a nomination which will be determined after the Round 2 Voting takes place: Original Lyric #: Lyric Title 4: Yeah, God's Like That 5: Crazy Is My Name 6: Dog Tags In The Dust 8: Tongue-In-Groove 11: Henry Teel 19: Cherokee Wind 27: Seamus, Sean and Me 28: Night Games 43: The Madlibs Song 45: Welcome To My Life 48: I Won't Be Here Long 52: At The End Of The Day 58: That's What God Looks Like 66: Dancing Shoes 73: Memories of a Lifetime 74: I Will Cry With You 78: The Man of Her Dreams is Jim Beam 79: Give Me Wings 97: The Wind and the Stones 101: Cowboy in Chicago 103: I Was Dancin' With the Devil 113: Daddys Little Secret 115: Blood and Adrenaline 123: The Virginia Waltz 125: Love Doesn't Divide, It Multiplies 131: When Cordelia Played 135: Complicated Woman 138: When Dogwood Blossoms Fall 144: You Made Me Laugh (And Mean It) 149: Duct Tape 151: Better 162: The One-eyed Babysitter 164: If Heaven Allows 170: Two Letters And A Heart 174: Blue Crayons Write The Best 175: Amanda's Dreams 181: Sadly, Softly Beautiful 182: No Easy Road (To Easy Street) 204: Some Day, Some Way 206: Pink Ballet Shoes 213: Joshua's Moon 230: Big Man Of Steel 234: Mot Yumat 237: The Hollow 238: Sweet Manhattan Melody 242: Holding Hands in Wal-Mart 249: They Say 258: Decorated 262: Weapons of Love 265: Let Your Soul Breathe We will email all the Top 50 Writers with more info and instructions on what to do next. Congrats to those who are moving to the next round, and thanks to all of you who entered and helped with the voting. We'd love to have you continue to participate in the next round of voting as well. Info will be posted on the message boards on how to vote in the 2nd round. That will take place later in March. Thanks again, Brian Brian Austin Whitney [This message has been edited by Brian Austin Whitney (edited 02-26-2004).] IP: Logged |
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Graham Serious Contributor Posts: 9239 |
Good one Brian. Might be an idea, if not already oj the drawing board to make a post so all those in the draw can collect their submission and post it there to save you guys some work, and all of us the effort of chasing the contenders all over the ogiginal comp entry post. Graham ------------------ IP: Logged |
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TINK Serious Contributor Posts: 3700 |
CONGRATULATIONS to all of the 50 finalists!! I can see many of my favorites, not just from the page I voted for, but overall. Many very deserving lyrics here, it will be tough to narrow the field!! Good luck to you all!!! IP: Logged |
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Lagusaya Serious Contributor Posts: 1404 |
Congratulations to the 50 finalists. IP: Logged |
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TampaStan Serious Contributor Posts: 8199 |
There are some Truly AWESOME Lyrics among the Finalists there, & I Thank You, Fellow Judges, for puttin' My Effort Among 'Em. I don't see a Bad One in the Bunch..know of a few More I wish'd Been There. CONGRATS to Evabody on this List..& to ALL you Patient Folks who helped Pick These. & Especially to BRIAN & Co.--for Doing So WELL what He Does SO WELL! Big Thankful Hugs, IP: Logged |
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WrightOn! Casual Observer Posts: 11 |
Hey all, good luck and keep up the great songwriting! Nick Wright IP: Logged |
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Cindy LaRosa Serious Contributor Posts: 1249 |
Best wishes and BIG congratulations to all of you who made it here!! ![]() Keep up the great work, IP: Logged |
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RobertK Serious Contributor Posts: 159 |
Out of all the votes, no voter got all of the top 5 correct on any page. In fact, only 2 voters even had all 5 of their votes fall in the top 8 lyrics. To me, that's a sign we got a really diverse set of viewpoints/styles represented in the second round. It also should be some comfort to those who didn't make it into the Top 50. There was certainly no "obvious" top 5 Lyrics on a given page to any 1 person. I can see that my taste is definitely in the minority on this board. Only one lyric of the 5 I voted for made the cut Congratulations to all the finalists and a special tip o' the cap to Brian for his extra work and efforts. IP: Logged |
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Brian Austin Whitney Bard of the Boards Posts: 3733 |
Robert, I've learned a lot from being behind the scenes for the last 5 years doing the awards. I used to think to myself how awards must always be rigged because I didn't think the best songs/albums won and of course my tastes must be right! HA! It was wake up call time for me! Though I can often instinctually guess which songs will do well with the overall judges, I also realize it's rarely similar to any 1 persons taste, including mine. That's the downside to having a lot of people judge/vote versus 1 persons particular taste, which sometimes can produce more interesting and eclectic results. (It's the problem you have with 1 radio programmer doing mass radio playlists for everyone like they do at Clear Channel). You can also get a mix of tastes which result in sometimes odd results. Last year, only 1 judge in the final round of ALL genres of the music awards got the top 5 songs in any genre in the correct order. And do you know who that judge was? A 6 year old girls who was voting in the Childrens Category and who nailed all 5 in order. We had label VP's who didn't get more than a couple right. I also learned a few other interesting things. Last year we had a successful producer who voted in a particular category. They also found a song they wanted to (and eventually did) license for a TV project. (No, I am not going to tell you, so hold off on the emails). The interesting thing was the song he chose to license wasn't even in his top 5 choices for that genre. BUT.. (and here's an important factor to always remember) it DID fit his business need better than the 5 songs he picked ahead of it. The Best Art doesn't always make the best fit for commerce. A lesson everyone pursuing both should never forget. Brian [This message has been edited by Brian Austin Whitney (edited 02-26-2004).] IP: Logged |
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Idamarie Naelitz Serious Contributor Posts: 1695 |
Congratulations to all of the fifty writers who made the cut here. Although my own lyric did not make it,(sniff, sniff) I am so pleased that eleven of my co-writers did and that just proves what a good judge of excellence I am. Also the lyrics that I voted for were also there with the exception of one who did not bother to vote. I will be most happy to be a part of the voting gallery as I have already read all of the entries. I will of course read them all again. There are a lot of lyrics in here that are truly awesome works of art. Three of them I have already put music to,however, that would not cloud my judgement in choosing a favorite lyric for the top spot. I had already found three offerings that I thought were outstanding, but, of course, we are back to square one in the reading and I could change my mind again. AHHH the agonies of being a good and fair judge!!! Good luck to all. Great job, Brian. Idamarie [This message has been edited by Idamarie Naelitz (edited 02-26-2004).] IP: Logged |
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LaraHeneveld Casual Observer Posts: 2 |
A Huge Congrat's to the Finalists! And thanks, Brian and Friends, for the opportunity for us to share our heart with fellow artists! As a previous JPF honoree (Tintangel - Best Celtic Album 2002), I have seen your enthusiasm and incredible passion for us first hand! It is the most authentic thing I have experienced in the industry. We love ya, JPF! Looking forward to seeing the Best Lyric Winner at the Awards show this year! Slainte! IP: Logged |
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Idamarie Naelitz Serious Contributor Posts: 1695 |
Uhh OHHH!! Just went through the list again and one of my favorites did not make it to the top fifty. There went my invincible ego trip!!! Just shows me that there are many different minds choosing and mine is not always right. LOL Good luck all!! Idamarie IP: Logged |
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braveboy09 Serious Contributor Posts: 88 |
Thanks for all your hard work, Brian. And thanks to everyone else who took time to really read their 50 lyrics and vote. Congratulations to all those who are moving on to the next round. Just a FYI... I had 7 finalists before I got down to my final 5 picks, and 5 of those 7 made it to the next round. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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agirlnamedjaen Casual Observer Posts: 3 |
Hey all, Just wanted to say it was a cool and enjoyable experience taking in everyone's thoughts and feelings. Very powerful! Thank you Brian,Linda and all the JPF behind the scenes workers for helping and honoring all of us. Thank you Brian also for your words of wisdom! Congrats to all...... Never stop creating and sharing! Cheers, [This message has been edited by agirlnamedjaen (edited 02-26-2004).] IP: Logged |
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TheCiscoKid Serious Contributor Posts: 492 |
Hey, congrats to all the finalists! Naturally, I'm not one..LOL...but I'm not in complete shock over that. ![]() Two of my top 5 voting choices made the finals, so I guess that's not too bad, eh? Interestingly, I must agree with those who say our tastes in judging are quite varied, as there were some entries from various pages I considered fabulous which didn't make it. None the less, congrats to all you songsters!..okay.. lyric-sters... and even if you didn't make the finalists, (as Brian said earlier), everyone found a fan. -gary IP: Logged |
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George Serious Contributor Posts: 47 |
Congrats to all the winners going into the second round! Except those from page 5. Just kidding. Some very good songs made the cut. My song didn't make the cut, but that's the way it goes. You can't fit 265 songs into 50 slots. But I did accomplish what I set out to do with the song I wrote. If I had made the cut it would have just been a wonderful bonus.It's been a great experience so far with such a the diverse group of writing skills. And thank you Brian, great job. <>< IP: Logged |
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greydog Serious Contributor Posts: 7856 |
Hearty Congratulations to all who have made it to the second round, and my sincere gratitude to all who voted for my lil lyric. Your kindness is indeed appreciated. I know you are probably expecting a check in exchange for your votes, but current fiscal restrictions preclude this. However, rest assured that first thing Monday morning, once they have ripped off and turned in the front page for credit, I intend to visit the dumpsters behind all the local 7-Elevens and collect the unsold Sunday papers. Then I will ask the wife to go through them and clip out the valuable coupons so that I may send them to you. Please do not feel slighted if they are addressed to "Occupant" and arrive in a "ValPak" envelope. Third class postage is truly a superior value. Thank you again, dawg [This message has been edited by greydog (edited 02-26-2004).] IP: Logged |
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mario Casual Observer Posts: 2 |
CONGRAGULATIONS TO THE TOP FIFTY WRITERS AND THANKS TO ALL THE VOTERS WHO TOOK THE TIME TO VOTE AND THANK YOU BRIAN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW OUR SONGS MARIO IP: Logged |
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CurlyT Casual Observer Posts: 31 |
Thank you all for your votes. It is truly an honor to be among the fifty. I felt very small after reading the lyrics on all the pages, so I am truly thankful for your votes. I am so thankful for the gifts that the Creator has given me. Brian, thanks, for your dedication and hard work. And to those others who work behind the scenes to make JPF the best music industry organization in the universe. I think two of my choices made it, glad to see that. Good luck to everyone and God bless ya! IP: Logged |
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TDBrown Serious Contributor Posts: 187 |
Yes, congratulations to all the semifinalists, and a big thank you to those who cast votes for my lyric. I haven't been a member very long, but you have all made me feel quite welcome here. Getting to the next round is just icing on the cake! ![]() Once again, thanks and good luck to all the semifinalists! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Kaley Willow Serious Contributor Posts: 4113 |
Many outstanding lyrics (imo) did not make it into the top 50...and a few lyrics really surprised me that didn't make it... Congrats to all who have moved on to the 2nd round...and thank you folks ...Happy Songwriting Wishes to all... [This message has been edited by Kaley Willow (edited 02-27-2004).] IP: Logged |
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Judy Serious Contributor Posts: 2133 |
Congratulations to all the finalists. I think the most pleasing thing to me as I read the list was to see so many names of old friends who've been around a long time and have grown with me as a lyric writer, ones who've helped me and inspired me over the years - don't have to give names, they know who you are - thanks. It's also great to see lots of new names. Good luck everyone. Cheers, Judy IP: Logged |
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Corey Serious Contributor Posts: 5030 |
Congrats to all the finalists! A big thanks to everyone who put in work, especially Brian. Good luck in the next round, everyone. CP IP: Logged |
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Brian Austin Whitney Bard of the Boards Posts: 3733 |
Hi Folks, I have posted all the Top 50 Lyric Finalists. Please do a quick check for me to make sure I didn't miss any or copy/paste the wrong lyric (which I did once and had to fix..). There's an interesting collection of lyrics there for sure. Brian IP: Logged |
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sweetjoyce Serious Contributor Posts: 2048 |
Congrats to the first round survivors!!!!!!! And to those bright enough not to vote for my entry!! my condolences to the Empress and Tricia who were my co favorites; i wonder if the vegas big wigs~~~ will understand, it was just a slip of the tongue~~~ ------------------ [This message has been edited by sweetjoyce (edited 02-27-2004).] IP: Logged |
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CowboySlim Serious Contributor Posts: 462 |
Thank you Brian and staff, for the opportunity to share in this special process. And thank you to all the folks who took the time to vote, and especially to those who voted for my lyric. God bless us all. Slim IP: Logged |
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ecsongs Casual Observer Posts: 15 |
Thanks to everyone who took the time to read 50 lyrics (I know many of you read more) and vote. It was my first time, and I feel blessed to have connected with JPF! It is definitely nice to be one of the writers moving on to the next round (thank you). In my opinion, some of the lyrics that did not get enough votes to move on were still top-notch. Good luck to all in the next round! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Pramod Ninan Serious Contributor Posts: 246 |
Congrats to everyone who made the second round!! Brian's right about the thing about knowing who'll get through even when you woulnd't vote for them yourself. From that point of view, i was spot-on, even though my votes were very different. Yay. Good for me. I've been going through the 50 final lyrics, and wow, there's some serious competition in there! Most of it is top-class stuff, and it makes me wonder why i even bothered to post my own lyric against these! Pramod ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Brian Austin Whitney Bard of the Boards Posts: 3733 |
Pramod, My observation was that very short lyrics didn't do very well. It's interesting that in the regular music categories, often longer songs do better than their shorter counter parts as well... the average length of winning songs are usually significantly longer than the 3.5 minute radio preferred standard. Brian IP: Logged |
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jmazzei Casual Observer Posts: 2 |
This was my first year participating as a writer and a reader. The amount of diversity was inspiring and I was pleased to see that my favorite made it to the next round. It's really inspiring to see how many people are creating and willing to put it out there for all the world to see. Thanks for that. Also, thanks to Brian for believing enough in the power of community and to hold up a lantern keeping a light at the end of the tunnel for us. IP: Logged |
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Diana Tyler Serious Contributor Posts: 457 |
Congratulations to all of you whose lyrics made it to the 2nd round! You deserve to be proud of this accomplishment! Enjoy!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Tricia Baker Serious Contributor Posts: 1754 |
Congratulations to those who made it to the 2nd round! There are SO many good ones, I might have to toss a coin this go round. And, thank you Ritt! I love you for it!!
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Tim Perry Casual Observer Posts: 33 |
Gotta pop in here quickly with a thank you to those voting for my lyric. And of course, to Brian and Co. for making all this possible. My entry from last year ended up at #5 when all the dust cleared. Crossing my fingers going into the next gauntlet! IP: Logged |
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Brian Austin Whitney Bard of the Boards Posts: 3733 |
Hi Folks, It looks like it will be at least late May or June until we can get to the nominations stage of our Music Awards this year. Should we hold off on the 2nd round voting until we get closer, or make everyone wait in anticipation that much longer for the results? Brian IP: Logged |
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Just Plain Steve Lord of this Board Posts: 82 |
Either way Brian, we'll be here By the way, haven't been around for a while. Wanted to say thanks to all those who voted for my lyric. Knowing who all was on the same page with me, it was truly an honor and a huge surprise. Thanks again, Brian and all. Steve ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Graham Serious Contributor Posts: 9239 |
I believe we should up and at it so it is done. Graham ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Marty Helly Serious Contributor Posts: 758 |
I'm in agreement with Graham on this one - lets go ahead and get the process out of the way. Then if there are any glitches, it leaves time to iron them out. ------------------ Is there a setting on the digital delay that will allow me to think before I speak? IP: Logged |
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EasyHero Serious Contributor Posts: 194 |
I'm all for moving on; don't see any reason why this has to be tied to the other Music Awards. Michael IP: Logged |
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Brian Austin Whitney Bard of the Boards Posts: 3733 |
Michael, Why would we separate it from the rest of the awards? Are you suggesting we don't give the award out with the other awards either? I am kinda shocked by your comment? Everyone else: I know folks were impatient waiting for the first round results. If we do the voting now and people have to wait until mid to late June to know the results I am guessing people will get pretty ancy about that as well. Brian IP: Logged |
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Graham Serious Contributor Posts: 9239 |
I agree with you on keeping all the award finals together Brian To do otherwise would be another opportunity for them lyricists to moan about feeling excluded from the main body of the creative proccess. On the do it now aspect, I feel it would get one job out of the way for any whop have to do something toward the awards, and also put all the contenders out of their misery as to who did and who didn't make the finals. ASA finalaward winners have about a two month wait to the big night. Graham ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Brian Austin Whitney Bard of the Boards Posts: 3733 |
Graham, I think you might be misunderstanding the timing. We won't even announce the nominees of the Awards until late May or even late June. (It's a LOT of stuff to go through folks!). So if we vote on the top 50 right now and get the results in a week or two, we won't announce those final nominees until the other nominees are announced. Then it will be an additional 2-3 months til the awards from that point. Right now I am thinking of the awards being the first weekend of September, so we can also celebrate our 6th anniversary at the same time. Plus the winners/finalists will have a cool promotional boost for their music for the upcoming holiday season. Brian IP: Logged |
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Marty Helly Serious Contributor Posts: 758 |
Brian - If that's your timing, why not start round 2 voting April 1 and give the entire month for voting. Will then be easy for folks to fit voting into their schedule and give you a month to make sure there's nothing bizarre in the results before announcing the nominees. ------------------ Is there a setting on the digital delay that will allow me to think before I speak? IP: Logged |
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Graham Serious Contributor Posts: 9239 |
I understand that Brian. Based my comment on the ASA, TSA, and SCALA awards which I know the workings of. The various section finalists all get told they are in the running as the stages progress. Even the none finalists get told nicely they didn't cut it. They are, and I think most abide by the ask, asked that they don't spread the word around so not to spoil the moment at the awards. Regards. Graham ------------------ IP: Logged |
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EasyHero Serious Contributor Posts: 194 |
Sorry, Brian, didn't mean to shock you. Don't know why that would be shocking, but no shock intended. I'm moving out of the country in June, so I guess it was just for personal reasons. I'm not sure what my e-mail access is going to be like after that, though it probably won't matter. Michael IP: Logged |
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Brian Austin Whitney Bard of the Boards Posts: 3733 |
Graham, We don't share any results with anyone until the nominations are posted on the site and later when the winners are announced to everyone at the awards. I've never liked awards programs that tell the winners they won beforehand. Many use it as a bribe/encouragement to get the winners to attend. I've always thought that if you have to do that to get someone to attend, it's probably better for them not to come in the first place. Brian IP: Logged |
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Graham Serious Contributor Posts: 9239 |
Point taken Brian. In the case of ASA awards, I don't see it as a bribe or anything. Rather a means of making it better for all concerned to use the opportunity to network. Given the ASA awards is a writer's awards, and given some, like me back then, are newbies, it gives the organsiers a better chance to work the seating so it is easy for possable contacts that would be useful to them to be siting close at hand etc. Also, as the winners of the sound section have the option of performing, or having their work performed live on the night, for non performers like me, that takes a bit of organising, so I feel forewarned is the way to go. I heard a lot of the winning entries, and a big majority of them, good song that they were, sure would go over as entertainment with a better take of them being done. ASA is one award where recording quality or ability is way on the back burner. A real writer's comp in my book. As it was, where I sent my sister to collect the award. The President did in fact bring folks up to meet her on my behalf, and the contacts she forwarded did in fact bear some fruit. Graham ------------------ IP: Logged |
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RecklessRodeo Serious Contributor Posts: 144 |
So what is the verdict for voting on the final 50? Can any member vote? I'm not sure how I missed the whole program! Could've been that I moved from Canada to the USA and got married and that I've spent the last few months in Immigration!!! Well done, Brian! I've enjoyed reading the posts and the nominees. Good group of people. I sure would like to see more of them post their critiques on the site and keep the diverse comments coming for all members. Looking forward to hearing the winners! Larry IP: Logged |
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Brian Austin Whitney Bard of the Boards Posts: 3733 |
Larry, I decided to push the next round back a bit so that we resolve it all closer to the time that we get the nominations announced for all the other categories. We'll post the info on voting in the newsletter and it will be open to all current members of the group. Brian IP: Logged |
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Ozone Pete Lord of this Board Posts: 768 |
Brian, Take.......your......time. ![]() Plus, a "fresh" look at the lyrics (via the passage of time) certainly isn't a bad thing, eh? Have some fun, hear? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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