Hell, none of that was overlooked by me, but in general....yes.....as with most great bands.

The fuggin cars were part of a small circle of bands that opened doors for what I heard in my head back then, how to put the pieces together.

Lessons learned through osmosis.

My guys were orr and easton.

Not to dull the shine from the rest of the band in any way.....just the two that impressed me most.