Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Ok Michael...will change crashing to screeching because your point is well taken....don't want these guys to be seen as criminal\evil\harmful


Thank you!

Well, now I can imagine these guys are just exploiting a problem and justifying what they do as a way to get the "county" to act faster, even though that makes them a little on the dumb side since Bob created the pot holes himself. The ends can sometimes justify the means, but in this case, would there be a "screeching problem" at all without the potholes?

It does work more for me, though they're still kinda robbing people, but hey! At least no one's getting hurt, now.

The only thing that really matters is that these guys, together, are all helping to convince themselves and each other and then re-enforce the idea that what they are doing is totally justified. It would have been hard to retain that idea if I knew these guys had to sleep at night knowing they were sending people to the hospital.

And of course, another possibility is that these guys aren't dumb: they know they are thieves and just don't talk (or care) about it.

My reaction is now a most excellent kind of complicated, where you paint a picture and tell a convincing story of how a small group of guys who want something (booze and other plunder) probably just can't come to the realization that their "want" has clouded their reasoning, as they believe that their thievery, which they probably don't even think of as thievery, is justified. The only thing that's important, here, is that THEY believe that, not you, me, or anyone else. You've created a universe, now, that is totally consistent within itself.

And that remains true even if they know they are thieves. Very gangsta! This could work as a Canadian gangsta rap!

MC Goin' Postel?

EDIT: I finally realize that what you have here is a kind of hybrid, John. The music resembles trad folk and the lyric resembles "gangsta rap" --at least in it's morality. In Gangsta Rap, thievery is dealt with simularly, with little to no justification for the act other than "gettin' paid" oft times. So that begs the question, will the lyric, as such, work with a trad folk audience since the expectation is that the theft be justified? That's why I kept trying to create ''moral justification'' in the minds of the characters. Maybe there is none, and that perhaps only an audience willing to enjoy a hybrid where the thievery is not really justified while the music is folk--can find the song "works" for them.

And I say, in all earnestness and sincerity, party on, Bob, Bennie, and ummm...the singer!

Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 03/21/23 10:15 PM.

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