Originally Posted by John Lawrence Schick
"Being sued is not a verdict. If they win and shut down A.I. from learning because it infringes, the lawyers will start suing every artist who ever listened to any artists who came before them." Brian

Not even close to the same thing Brian.

John smile

It is EXACTLY the same thing. Creators listen to, view, interact with and experiment with what came before. A.I. is doing the same. If a human listens to Pink Floyd and makes his best version of a new Pink Floyd style song, as long as he doesn't steal melody or lyrics, he is free to use their catalog as his inspiration. A.I. is doing the same. If it was "stealing" it would obviously be infringement. We are already protected. You seem to want a world that would set a precedent that if you want to write songs, you better not learn to do so by listening to other works. I think that would entirely end art. All Art is derivative. ALL OF IT with the sole exception of randomization. Ironically, A.I. is as close to random as possible while still having merit. These random settings are easy for it because it can operate at beyond human efficiency as it throws the paint on the canvas. By inputting essentially all known music into it, it steals less than any human every would simply due to it's enormous cache of data. What it doesn't have is inspiration or motivation to create art. That is why it still requires humans to make it work. It is simply like having a fork lift to lift a giant weight instead of your back. The human avoids the heavy lifting, but still must supply the reason to lift, and what to do with it once you lift.

An exception would be if you told it to ONLY consider 1 piece of work alone and to replicate with infinite minor adjustments. It could do that, but all those results would be obvious infringement. Once you add a divergent work (let alone billions of them) it no longer can infringe on a single work. At most you could say it is mimicking what a general human who makes music might do. But the funny thing is, it is still prompted by, and then curated solely by humans on both ends of creation. If you, the human, FORCE it to infringe, you could do that, but as the "owner" of that work, you would be guilty of infringement, not the software, anymore than if you used a DAW to record a version of someone else's song.

If we are both around one all this washes out, I look forward to seeing who is right. The lawsuits are 100% a corporate cash grab. You and I nor any artist not directly connected to the litigants will never sniff a penny of any settlement. (And there WILL be a settlement, this is all posturing). All it will do is cost users more money (the little guys and gals) and that money will ONLY go the same rich and powerful people.


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