Mike, The Melodic Minor Modes I'm talking about have half steps between 2-3 and 7-8. ascending and descending and the modes based on that premise. It's supposedly used by jazzers and such exclusively. Guitar Player Mag did a seven month coulmn based on these modes last year. They treated the scale just like the major modes. I've been fooling with them for several months now and am still searching for "shapes." Difference in what we're talking about is that it doesn't change on the descending part of the scale. Does this make any sense to you? Regards, Tj


TJ Sullivan