Loved the discussion, guys. I like Mariah better now. I liked the "old" Madonna......when she was hungry. I do admire how she's evolved into a more mature woman rather than the sex pistol she wanted the public to think she was. I wasn't fond of her image after the industry robbed her of her innocence. I could have hung in with her if she hadn't been all into the pointy bras, chains and whips look. There's a name for that but I can't think of it. In some ways now, she reminds me of Cher and Tina Turner-timeless in their beauty.

I appreciate the Beatles more now than I did when their music was popular. Their music never bores me and for some reason, I never get tired of hearing it. Elvis, I can't play for hours on end. It all sounds the same to me and it's rather shallow and simple. It's a shame he got caught up in the downward spiral that often snags popular performers. It must be a difficult life, living on the road like that for months at a time with someone always "wanting" something from you.

Madonna has managed to keep her sanity by staying out of the public eye at times and I don't blame her for moving out of the country. I like that she's a health nut. I wish I had her figure and motivation.


"Grits is one of those country-boy words that is both singular and plural-like deer, elk and sheep. I think the singular is appropriate when there's a modifier that makes it clear one is talking about something specific. Like, 'Grits are good for you, but these here grits is tasty.'"~~Joe Wrabek