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I figured out that you were not a musician a while ago, and I can tell you use what you can find, and write a melody on top if it.

What do you mean by "you use what you can find"? You have no idea how I write songs, do you? I program my instruments. I'm a programmer, not a musician. But, who cares anyway. If a song is good, I don't care how it was written or recorded.

Thanks for the feedback. I prefer not to discuss with you where you draw the lines between rock'n roll, rock, alt pop, etc.

Your hilarious how you talk out loud, inviting people to defend you.

Look, your songs lack motifs, instrumental hooks, because if you don't play an instrument, where are you going to get a melody from? In package b?

That's how I know. The musical hooks and riffs matter, so does a specific arrangement for your sings, not a generic one. I program too I'm a great air drummer, so I'm good at doing drums.

Here maybe this will help illustrate what I mean, In short, the melody the singer sings is only a part of the song.


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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Your hilarious how you talk out loud, inviting people to defend you.
Look, your songs lack motifs, instrumental hooks, because if you don't play an instrument, where are you going to get a melody from? In package b?

Thanks for the clip. A musician describing how HE writes songs doesn't help me much. Like I said, I'm not a musician.

I'm not inviting people to "defend" me. I'm just straight forward with you and telling you how I write my songs. I have the melodies in my head. I don't need any "packages". And honestly, I have no idea what you are talking about. I acknowledge that you think my songs are weak because I don't play an instrument. Michael Jackson didn't play an instrument either. So, if I'm in the same boat as MJ I'm fine with that.

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
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Your hilarious how you talk out loud, inviting people to defend you.
Look, your songs lack motifs, instrumental hooks, because if you don't play an instrument, where are you going to get a melody from? In package b?

Thanks for the clip. A musician describing how HE writes songs doesn't help me much. Like I said, I'm not a musician.

I'm not inviting people to "defend" me. I'm just straight forward with you and telling you how I write my songs. I have the melodies in my head. I don't need any "packages". And honestly, I have no idea what you are talking about. I acknowledge that you think my songs are weak because I don't play an instrument. Michael Jackson didn't play an instrument either. So, if I'm in the same boat as MJ I'm fine with that.

Lol, they are weak whether you play or not .

You won't listen to anything I saw uts one refute after another .

I'm done good luck

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Lol, they are weak whether you play or not .

How long did it take you to listen to my songs? I wrote hundreds of them. You listened to all of them and they are all weak? No exceptions? I always take feedback seriously. I have to make an exception here.

An hour or so ago you wrote "Hey, pretty good groove, really good production, decent singer.... You did that by not listening to the Stones, get outta here, I don't believe it" about one of my songs. So, that's the feedback you give when you comment a weak song? It looks like we don't speak the same language.

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Hey Rob B.

Don’t bother feeding the troll anymore...he’ll go back to his home under the bridge... What is clear is that he has little if any understanding of how to create a song...and it starts with a rudimentary grasp of the English language...so he’s not a lyricist for starters..this thread alone contains statements that clearly indicate his struggle with the language, such as “I could a wrote Satisfaction”
which of course, you and I know it should be “I could have written” A lyricist just wouldn’t expose himself to ridicule if he wants respect as a songwriter. When I read something like that I’m thinking “he says he’s a songwriter...hmmm” The typing errors are in abundance, throughout the thread, and he makes no effort to correct them....a good writer just doesn’t make those mistakes...but it seems he doesn’t care...which is a reflection of who he is...We all make the occasional typing error, on our posts, here, but it bothers us when we do...at least it does me.
He has admitted he’s not a great musician, but lets give him a little bit of credit...he’s posted a couple of songs in the last couple of years and removed them and I don’t know how many lyrics he’s posted other than “Foray” and his 2 piano songs. He talks a lot but seems to hide behind some kind of fear or anxiety. This is a place to learn and with over 4600 posts you would think he gets it...but IMO he just doesn’t have the street cred that others have here.

How a song comes into existence, is irrelevant...what counts is the final product. I would suggest Fd go to the video forum and click on your video with Andrew Gold. The fact that Gold would even consider your song is directly related to the fact you wrote a superb song. Most of us would die to even have a sniff at one of our songs. Then to have him record it and spend the time with you and for you to be there when it’s being produced...WOW! This isn’t about Gold, it’s about you.

Fd, Rob B. Got to that point because he has worked on his craft. Maybe you’ve worked on yours, but what you have shown here does not indicate you’ve moved beyond Songwriting 101. You can make whatever disparaging comments and insults you want, but he’s been there and you haven’t.

Hey Fd...still waiting for that apology....

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But if you ain't going, I'll go.

Fd, you said you would go but you're still here...seems someone is telling lies, AND IT'S NOT ME!!!!


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Originally Posted by JAPOV

Like it, thanks fur that. Not sure if that's me or you, If me you coukda been more flattering..... lol

Like the Stoney bit in there, nice work, how does that not seem more vibrant to this forum than what we keep hearing.

If I try to do it myself, I can't sound like band in a box, please God, no.

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Fatass online blogging my life away... Yeah', I can relate.

Go down to Mp3s and write us a chorus!


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