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In a post today, where JAPOV (Tony) was needling Ben however he could, he brought my name into it. Tony equated me to the devil and Ben as my hand puppet / mouthpiece. I thought that rather nasty and unkind, but that kind of thing is allowed to go on here at JPF.com unchecked.

I don’t know any devils or demons. The crudest and most disgusting personality that I know of is actually Tony himself. I resent the insult.

However, It inspired an artistic pursuit.
I have created an assemblage of quotes taken verbatim from JAPOV’s posts.
The words expressed in this creation are not mine. They are Tony’s.
I simply amassed these quotes into one "SERMON FROM A FOOL."

These words are who Tony is.

So give a listen to Tony, in all of his glory, in the artistic creation “SERMON FROM A FOOL.”

THIS HAS BEEN DE-LINKED PENDING ANY FURTHER PROVOCATIONS.
If further provocations occur, there is a vast resevoir of available and apt quotations available for harvesting into new artistry.

Comments welcome

Actually, I was holding this since October, not really wanting to air it, but Tony's allegation that I am Satan pushed the button.

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BRILLIANT!!!

😇🥲

oh fer pete's sake people, really????? This is getting so annoying and you're using up board space for your little tantrums. JUST STOP IT!!

Nobody coming to these forums for help gives a crap about all these arguments. Get a grip!

I'm on my phone at a city park. I just responded to your latest chastisement in your song thread in the MP3 section because it was hard to see the phone in the daylight. I'll move it back over here later. For now you can read it there

And as you can see from his post, the troll needled me with insults until he got his payoff.
But if you want to keep the troll and get rid of me, we can do that

That will be you and Rob and Dom. 3 of you all will get it done.

Demonic Manpussies are such drama queens...

Straight up...
This site has been a chaotic mess for years.
Most people have left.
Hijacked threads are the least of it.

There are two broken trolls here that are allowed free reign.
They are the lowest common denominators here.
They seek discord and acrimony. It appears to be all that they have to make themselves feel alive.
They deal in insults, crack-pot zealotry, whining about Trump or people who hate Trump.
To expect sanity here is irrational.

"You live for the fight when that's all that you've got"
Bon Jovi

They were both gone for a week. There was civility. They came back. And immediately...It's gone.
They have both broken the ice with you and will keep coming with the garbage.
Chiding them is feeding them.

It's up to Brian Whitney to fix this place. He doesn't. He must like it the way that it is.

Thats pretty dark Marty . Im the devil again lol. I like it

There's a lot darker things than this petty turd bowl, Ben.
It's just a sad reality.

And specifically,
according to the crack-pot zealot...I am Satan...and you are merely my hand puppet/ mouthpiece, controlled and victimized by my vexation of you.

Question: Is "vexation" a word?

Upon review;
vex·a·tion
/vekˈsāSHən/
noun
the state of being annoyed, frustrated, or worried.

Not quite a fit...no evil supernatural connotation...but I'll stay with it here.

ha ha ha , I'm surprised Suno , left all the f bombs in

So was I. They censored nothing.
I guess they saw it for the art work that it was not.

Now this has to be the funniest thing I have heard....SUNO does a Tony rant....
please you have to disclose the prompts


and please please...... I want to hear one that is said in sweet loving maybe sarcastic tones...not the obvious dark ones
let's see SUNO do nuanced

Total piece of shite, but hey who can account for taste,

Oh-oh…I’m learning to talk like an American..lol!

ha ha ha total piece of shite Rotfl . that cheered me up, They called it art eh ha ha ha

The prompts are gone for some reason. It was nothing to extreme. +/- "Make this sound like a fire and brimstone sermon being delivered to a congregation out of favor."
If I had said...make it sound like Bugs Bunny talking to Daffy Duck, it would still sound outrageous because it is outrageous.

These words are not made up.
This freak is allowed to blurt this sh:t out, adnauseum and at will, any time that he gets the urge.
Given that longevity over a period of years, apparently, this is considered acceptable on this site.

Given that, there is nothing wrong with me assembling it into "an artistic compilation."

If it is deeply offensive to you, then maybe you shouldn't subject yourself to such as this.

Marty, this isn’t funny. Including my real name in a song filled with hostile and sexualized language crosses a line. Songwriters generally don’t use real people’s names in this way without consent. This is unacceptable.

Wrong Rob.

None of these words are mine.
I only assembled them.
If they are allowed to go on here, and you find them offensive, I'm not the person to blame for that.
I'm just the person who made it technicolor.
Actually, your name was featured when you were castigated. Tony said it, show your indignation to him.

If you want to climb up on your high horse with me, then climb up and have fun.

Marty, reposting and amplifying abusive material that names me is not acceptable, regardless of who originally wrote the words. Responsibility lies with the person who posts it. YOU wrote the song!

I regard it as acceptable and long overdue.
I made this art in October and planned to leave it dormant in my personal SUNO files.

Being likened to Satan today by a freak, without provocation, brought it to the light.

I have stated over and over again that Tony and his rants have become the centerpiece of this site.
I put them in artistic form and on display for everyone to savor.
It seemed selfish of me to be hogging the exposure.

Marty, that has NOTHING to do with me. YOU mentioned MY NAME in a song! Reposting and amplifying abusive material that names me is not acceptable! Take this post down! PLEASE! NOW!

Rob,

Not my words.
Tony mentioned your name very publicly. Not me.
I took it out of the public realm and reposted it in my art employing my freedom-of-speech.

If that is unacceptable, or crossing a line, or a bridge too far, or beyond the pale...take it up with Tony.

I'm been told on this forum that I am supposed to just deal with Tony's abuse. So I'm passing that directive on here.
All the caps. Take a breath Rob. Tony did not say anything that devastating.
Your reaction here is beyond the pale.

No Marty. You wrote a song about me! You wrote the lyrics! Take it off this board! NOW! This is your thread, your song!

Rob.

Cut the melodrama and all the over-the-top indignation.
I assembled the song.
The words are Tony's directed at you. Not my issue. Take it up with him.

It should never have been allowed to be written or left up...but at worst, it's just petty garbage.
Get a grip.

Marty, you posted a song about me. Remove it or I'll contact a lawyer. You've crossed a line. I'm not joking!

Threats Rob? Taking this to court? Do what you will.
Make sure and name Tony. He wrote this and enjoys what he wrote.

Tony didn't write the song. YOU did.

"Says the

Here's Tony's quote Rob.

I think that your legal action is actually against this website and Tony.

Tony didn't write the song. YOU did. This line is in the chorus!

"Says the

Here's Tony's quote Rob.

As I said...I think that your legal action is actually against this website and Tony.

Nope. YOU wrote the song! I'm an American. Take it down! YOU posted the song! Don't blame the website for what YOU post!

Rob

No.
I don't like threats.

You appear to live in some kind of imagined world.

The obvious point of the post is an indictment of Tony's writings...not you or yours.
One could claim that you, like me, were slandered and victimized by Tony, as was made evident here and that this site lets it go on.
And if you are, in fact, an American citizen, then you are.

Your threats and whoever you talk to about it is your choice.

You're going to sue Marty over a silly AI song , that only this forum will hear ? What we talking here 15k lawyers hotels , flights , meals ect ect on a slander case ? He called me the devil twice , I could careless .

Good Morning Ben,
I was trying to check out an unconfirmed report that the Venezuelan military had an agreement with the CIA to let the US take Maduro. Can’t find anything. You read all sorts of claims on the internet.

After that, I stopped by here. To be clear.

I think that you are estimating low on legal fees these days. But I believe that your basics are thematically correct. However, beyond the costs, there are other things that would make a court case here a reach:

The words that I put up in this artistic assemblage are not mine. They are the words directly quoted of Tony Williams.

My intent was not to malign Rob or Marc Barnett or Elvis(you) or myself.
My intent was to show the unbridled toxicity of Tony Williams in his own words that are allowed expression on this site.
I regard them as outrageous and ludicrous.

The words that Rob is concerned with were written by Tony and addressed to Rob.
I cited them, in an attempt to show how Rob was derogated by Tony. Not to derogate Rob.

As far as me putting them up here in a “song,” I did not originate them and they have been on this site for months and Rob is aware of that…yet Rob frequents this site anyway. If he found them so offensive and wanted these words out of here, it should have been taken up with the moderators months ago.

And then there is the accuracy and truth of what Tony wrote:
He called Rob a “German activist.”
I recall Rob himself, stating that he had German citizenship, so German seems factual.
Rob has been on this site multiple times derogating the actions of Donald Trump regarding tariffs and many other things. Calling Rob an activist is a loose application but not a baseless claim in my eyes.
Tony said Rob compared him to Hitler. I dont know if he did or not. Tony or Rob can tell you that.
I just know, for a fact, that Tony made his derogating statement in an exchange with Rob, not me.
SIDENOTE: Tony compared me to Satan yesterday.

Once Rob got passed all of that, he would have to present legal grounds for his claim of being damaged by me. And he would have to assign a monetary value to it.

Loss of songwriting revenue? From what?
Other specific damages? From what?
Emotional distress? At being called a German activist?

His last name was not even mentioned in the quote and Tony’s reference was merely to a “Robert.”

Dockets being what they are… can you imagine a judge looking at what is being brought to his courtroom? A plaintiff who has taken multiple public political positions on a songwriting site, yet wants a billion dollars in damages because he was called a German activist and accused of comparing Donald Trump and someone else to Hitler?

Having said all of that…
My artistic assemblage of Tony’s rantings is disgusting and grotesque and perverse. E.g. the "nipple and peanut butter" reference.
Tony's response to this post is "BRILLIANT." He appears to like what he has accomplished here.
It was presented from material collected on this site, because it is allowed here.

However, after sleeping on it...
for anyone at all, to say that they do not want to be referenced in it, for whatever reason, is reasonable.
To refuse that...is not.

I don’t care to spend time editing it, but I think it needs a little more time up to show people what is allowed to be stated here.

I plan to remove the link tonight.
It could be taken down by the moderators sooner than that.
And for those of you all who think that I am debased for citing Tony's words...keep in mind...I did not originate them. They were already here and have been allowed to go on like they do for years. I am just a spotlight.

In short, Mr Lied;

Rob and I had a conversation.
Rob and I reached resolve like adults.
Rob and I have never cared how you feel about it.

So... It's no surprise that you have lied, taken our conversation out of context, mixed that lie with other misquoted retorts taken out of context, and publicly presented this demonic abomination all in the name of "art".

YOU ARE THE ANTICHRIST!

But, I still think this is FUNNY AS HELL!

https://suno.com/s/2I8Dg6QNbbglLxt9

NO SALE Tony.

You "reached resolve like adults?"
Well, for the next 15 minutes you and Rob and Dom may consider yourselves best of friends, but your history here suggests that may be tentaive.

NO SALE Tony.
Your words in or out of context speak clearly about what you are.
"Adults" dont commit to written words what you do, under any circumstances, regardless of context.

"Peanut butter nipples"



I know you do. This is not an embarassment but a big payoff in the mind of a troll.

Hmmmmn.... (shrugs)

I love peanut butter.

https://suno.com/s/2I8Dg6QNbbglLxt9

Mmm Marty....as much as I liked what SUNO did with the rant, Rob asked you several times to take something down that referenced him...something he did not want to be associated with.

The right thing would be to do so...forget legal action ....just because Rob made a legitimate request. Thinking on it, I expect MAB would also want to be removed since his full name is in there

Don't let past baggage here cloud that. Your intransigence here is wrong....you have made Rob and MAB into collateral damage

Marty,
assembling and reposting abusive content that includes my real name is your responsibility, regardless of who originally wrote the words.
This song names me and MAB directly more than once. It does not name you or anybody else with their real names. That distinction matters.
Reframing this as an “indictment of Tony” does not change the fact that you chose to repost, spotlight, and artistically repackage material that targets specific individuals who did not consent to being named.
I did not ask you to analyze Tony’s behavior. I asked you to remove content that references me by name. That is a reasonable request. Why can't you do that?
I have avoided engaging with you and your posts for some time. This post forced engagement by naming me directly. I'm kindly asking you once again to leave me alone.

Actually it had me rolling on the floor laughing , This is stupid talking lawyers and taking this Suno Song to Court . The judge would probably say can't you guys work this out without wasting my time ?
I guess if your going to do that You'll Tony as a witness , now that be a scene explaining himself on rants on what he said. Put your hand on the Bible . Do you promise to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth ? . How ironic . Balif play that song for the court . For 50k or whatever it is on lawyers , You can a lot more Suno songs lol. I think once them people heard all that bullshit and f bombs . They'd start breaking out laughing and the judge would say . Come to order or I will clear this courtroom . Yeah they 'll pull all the transcripts from the Ward , Mister Tony , did you say all that ? Yes your honor . What would you like to say on your behalf ? Well the devil made me do it . Are you talking Elvis Presley was the devil . No some guy named Frank , I see . The court deems you need therapy. Case dismissed this all nonsense .

Your assessment does not look realistic to me Rob.
European sensibilities regarding what can be said and what the limitations on free speech are, look very different to me over here.
I have stated what I think is a more accurate assessment based upon some business experiences and 20 years at a tennis club with an abundance of attorney members.
The conversations after play over drinks would go on for a while. As you may have noticed, I have an insatiable curiosity and healthy intelligence.
Read it again if you need to.
Restating the same things over-and-over in a back-and-forth seems pointless here.
Believe what you will.

As for leaving you alone...
I have almost always made positive comments about your songs. I consider them to be "nice" for the most part.
The other day I complimented two, even though I really dont personally care for you.
The songs were good. Reason for being here in the first place. Credit where credit is due. My feelings aside...Said so.
Going forward, abstaining from commenting on your songs is no problem, no issue and no concern.

Regarding political posts...
I regard them as toxic and destructive to a songwriting site, or any site where they create decension and distract from the primary goals.
The proof is here to see, in abundance, going back years.
But they are allowed here.
If you are free to post a political comment that I find erronoeous, objectionable, one-sided, propagandistic, I will be free to address your statements in whatever terms I choose in that moment.
If you avoid political statements here, I'll have no reason to comment on anything that you do.

Regarding the existing post...
Last night, I considered your exact address to the post and your threats to be off-putting so I became defensive.
When I woke up this morning, I looked at Ben's post, reconsidered mine, and decided that in spite of the fact that I don't like you, it was not reasonable to keep someone's name involved in a wretched collection of diatriabes by a third party...if it is against their wishes.

As stated, I'll remove the link to SUNO by this evening.

Very interesting, Marty. When Ben insults a woman in the forum, you condemn it. When you insult me, you call it freedom of speech.

You describe the song as “a wretched collection of diatribes by a third party,” but that’s not accurate. This is your collection and your presentation. You chose what to include - and what to leave out. Notably, you left out the many instances where Tony directed similar language at you. Your name is not in it. Why?

I have already made it clear that I do not want my name associated with this post. Please take the thread down. Now. Thank you.

Hmmmmmn...

You guyz are slowly winning me over.
I have LOTS of random thoughts suitable for AI.
Could be a healthy outlet for my "angry and impulsive" side

Rob,

The issue has been addressed.
I have agreed to remove the SUNO link.
It will be gone by this evening.
I have agreed not to comment on your songs.

That is all that I have for you.

Marty

You guys are crazy , talking lawsuits over a stupid Suno song , End the joke and delete it

And you are the den mother here?
I thought that Kay-lynn had grabbed that job.

I'm going to DE-LINK the "Sermon Of A Fool" SUNO artistic assemblage...subject to and pending any further provocations.

Whatever them lawyers will think you're both nuts. it's not den mother . it's wise advice