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John posted this in a different thread and I found his lines inspiring. I wanted to find out what they could sound like, so I added a bridge and ran them through Suno. I was surprised how good it sounded. I thought this deserved its own thread. This is a Voorpostel/Baitinger collab.

We’re Gonna Have To Pay For It
https://suno.com/s/OGkbuV9bUMFB1ZG1

[Intro]
Whoa, Whoa
Whoa, Whoa

[Verse]
Waiting for gas, waiting in line
Feels like a fool crossed it this time
Deep in my pockets, nothing but dust
Do I have what it takes to cover the cost

[Verse]
Suits in the harbor, suits in the sky
Everybody ready to step over the line
Legal or not, nobody cares
Do I have what it takes to cover my share

[Chorus]
Whoa, we’re gonna have to pay for it
Every mistake of his
Whoa, we’re gonna have to pay for it
Today it’s the strait we’re in
We’re gonna have to pay for it

[Break]

[Verse]
More resignations, more power abused
More retribution quietly excused
One thing’s certain, nothing so sure
We’re on the hook when the bill comes due

[Chorus]
Whoa, we’re gonna have to pay for it
Every mistake of his
Whoa, we’re gonna have to pay for it
Today it’s the strait we’re in
We’re gonna have to pay for it

[Bridge]
Hands on the meter, watchin’ it climb
Counting the cost one dollar at a time
They make the moves, we take the fall
Funny how the little guy pays it all

[Interlude]
Whoa, Whoa
Whoa, Whoa

[Final chorus]
Whoa, we’re gonna have to pay for it
Every mistake of his
Whoa, we’re gonna have to pay for it
Today it’s the strait we’re in
We’re gonna have to pay for it

[Outro]
Whoa, we’re gonna have to pay for it
Whoa, we’re gonna have to pay for it
We’re gonna have to pay for it

I like how this does exactly what I wanted it in driving home were gonna have to pay for it

Can you download this and send it so I can do a video?

Glad you like it. I just sent it to you. Let me know if you didn't get it.

Good morning Rachel.

In this matter, there is a solid case to be made which asks..."what price do you want to pay and when?"

The situation has ancient roots:

722 BC - Sargon defeated the northern Kingdom and sent them into exile.
597 BC - King Nebuchadnezzar II defeated the northern Kingdom and sent them into exile.
135 AD - Hadrian destroyed the state of Israel.
1948 AD - May 14 - The state of Israel was recreated.
1948 AD - May 15 - Israel was invaded by a coalition of armies from 5 Arab countries which did not include Iran, which was allied with the West at the time. But that changed.
2023 AD - Oct 07 - Israel was invaded in an ambush and several hundred of its inhabitants slaughtered by Iranian proxies.

That doesn't even include enough events to even be considered skeletal.

So now the world is looking at a theocratic regime that unmercifully slaughters thousands of its own citizens for daring to oppose it.

Question: Do you believe that is just untrue, Western propaganda?

That same theocratic regime thinks that God hates Israel and considers it a scourge upon Muslim land that must be fully destroyed.
That same theocratic regime celebrates a national holiday, every November 4 (the 13th of Aban in the Iranian calendar). The Western media and some politicians occasionally refer to it as "Death to America Day," its official name is the "National Day of Fight against Global Arrogance" and "Pupil Day" (or Student Day).
That theocratic regime leads crowds in chants of "death to American," "death to Israel."

Here is where is gets murky in the minds of neo-Neville Chamberlain appeasers:

Only a fool would assume that this theocracy does not mean what they say regarding the West and specifically Israel.
Only a fool would assume that this theocracy was not trying to achieve a nuclear device.

Question: Why would they not be?

Only a fool would believe that the West can achieve un-policed treaties with a theocracy which believes that God hates our un-pure, blasphemous existence.

Conclusion:
It is a high probability that,

This theocracy does in fact, intend and plan for the eradication of Israel.
This theocracy has been in the process of spending oil revenue on weaponry for itself and its proxies for decades.
This theocracy is fully intent on achieving a nuclear weapon that could kill a country of 10 million in one or two explosions.
This theocracy would consider eradication a holy victory, won on behalf of God.
This theocracy has been chumping chumps like Obama and Kerry for decades in these efforts and goals.

But, then a convergence occurred....
The proxies attack unarmed party-goers on 10/07/2023.
Netanyahu is president of Israel.
Trump is elected President of the United States.
A disruption occurs in events that have been patterned for decades. All of a sudden, Iran is subject to attack.


So Rachel, What is your bet?
Can this theocracy be reasoned with and all hostilities be avoided for now and forevermore?
Do the events of the past few decades suggest that?
Or will they continue their quest for a nuclear device that will ultimately make them a threat to the welfare of the world.

Questions:
Do you really believe that these theocrats are not pursuing a nuclear weapon?
So, pay now, pay later or never have to pay?

Tired footnote Rachel,
If these people are allowed to gain a nuke and hellfire breaks out on the other side of the world, the US, at great expense...will once again...have to be the force that goes against it.

The one bit of good news...
These theocrats have seen and felt their own hellfire 10/07/2023 to an exponential.
Now they know what it can look like.
Trump and Netanyahu have achieved their degradation already.

It may come down to who, a random individual, is rooting for in this clash of cultures and weapons.
Who are you rooting for?

So Rachel, what is your bet ...and what are you willing to pay ...and when?

Gotta go. Lovely chat.

Ps...Since you have advocated for Rachel Maddow and her show, I assume that your words are largely derived from her words, so I am addressing the two of you here, collectively as "Rachel."

Marty,
I’d appreciate you using my name rather than grouping me in with someone else.

I’m not here to place bets or debate geopolitics at that level. For what it’s worth, there was a nuclear agreement with Iran (the JCPOA) that addressed these concerns before it was abandoned by Trump in 2018.

Our song isn’t trying to solve the situation or take sides - it’s about the pressure and the consequences when things escalate. The longer it drags on, the more it feels like we’re all going to have to pay for it, one way or another. That’s really the lane I’m trying to stay in here and I'm sure John will agree.

Please Marty do not talk politics here. I have refrained since your last request I expect you to uphold your own standard.

Nothing wrong with writing it in a lyric as art though...

Rob.....small typo I noticed....one thing is certain, nothing SO sure

Also, it came to Dropbox wchich you shared...thank you....issue is my Dropbox account is via another address.
Wrote a note in to DB message to you
Definitely fine to send the notice to postelhoek.......just DB wants me in as iaccountant

And it still rocks this morning

Aohn

I appreciate that you have stopped posting political. Good move.

But, 2 things...

1) Your "lyric as art" statement holds no water.
Songs which contain lyrics, have a message. The message of the lyrics is a primary element or they would not be there.
To have to listen to a clearly expressed political statement, yet be denied redress or critique of the message itself...?

...is tantamount to being asked to write an essay on the dependability of your current automobile, yet denied any mention of the engine.
No sale there.

2) This site has drifted away from "songs." The writings of yourself and Moe evidence that as much as anything else.

As for me...
If I see a really good song posted, I might give an attaboy or attagirl...but this is not one, yet is a political statement barely veiled as a "song."
So I will respond to what I see.... until banned.

Gotta go today.
Can't get back to any of this until tomorrow morning or the next or next.

Have a pleasant day.

Rachel, collectively, works for me. I see you as her extension.

Your song is about taking sides.
You have publicly bashed Trump more times than you can count.
You have long since..."taken sides."

The history of humanity is as much the history of war as anything else.
A truly thinking person has to look at this situation,
assess probable outcomes as best they can with the information available to them.
and decide what they think is predicted to be the outcome yielding the "greatest good."
That is what we are watching play out right now.
That is almost always going to involve picking a side.


Otherwise, its just pointless and endless, "woe is me."
Reality responds to that with..."Frankly my dear (Scarlet), I don't give a damn."

Truly gotta go.
Be back some future morning.

Marty own up to it.

No one can say anything about the US and Trump messing things up. You won't hear of it. Everything he does is fine by you.

So this political statement lyric set you off again....how unpatriotic to not be prepared to pay more to take down this evil Iranian regime.

But do not be selective in your history lesson.

The reason there is a theocracy in Iran can be laid directly at the feet of the USA

You conveniently overlook the USA and Britain (CIA and MI5) overhrew a DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED Iranian government in the fifties.
Seems they had the gall to nationalize their oil industry after repeated requests for more transparency and money.
USA was going to act as an "honest broker" as it was the British who were there

Instead, they decided to restore the Shah to absolute power, then armed, trained and supplied his secret police, SAVAK, to keep him there
and they did that with brutal efficiency

1958 to 1978 ...20 years of support for that regime.....then the Shah fell ill, left the country, and the Ayatollah Khomeini was invited back into Iran.

The Shah first went to Mexico then was taken in by the USA and Iran wanted him back for trial.

As the US said no, students took over the US embassy for over a year, and all focus of hatred shifted to the USA because of their actions.
The US was an easy target for leadership 101. Unite the people in a common cause against an enemy

Fast forward from regime change and secret police support to surprise attacks as an aggressor nation and I can see where there is absolutely no trust or goodwill in Iran for the USA.

And yes Iranian proxies are fighting Israel...that is a fact...and Israel has all the right to defend itself.

But self defence has limits too in proportional retribution....and it appears to me that lines have been crossed here.

So no one is blameless and your finger pointing needs to be better informed

Aohn,

Sorry, no time left for this today. Tomorrow maybe.

But here's a trailer....

Be all that as it may, yet, here we are.

As for Trump...

He may "die on this hill."

xoxo

Marty,
I think this thread has drifted quite a bit from where it started.

John and I were just co-writing, trying to capture a feeling more than make a political statement. I really appreciate the direction the lyric took.
I’m not looking to get into a broader political debate here - there are plenty of other places for that. I’d prefer to keep this thread about the songwriting itself.
Thanks for listening and for the input. It's sad you didn't say anything about the song.

@John: I re-sent you the song in WAV format.

Thank you...all good now and receiving