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I agree totally... seems that it is always a challenge to be good! and even harder IF you have $$$$.... I was raised catholic, and although "the church" is guilty of MANY wrongs, I just don't like it when people say "the catholic church this, and the catholic church that..." I personally know of too many people that have received blessings through catholic charities... it is easy to point out the splinter in your neighbors eye, but probably better to focus on the logs in our own not trying to be preaching here, just reminding MYSELF as much as anything else.... (just my opinion)

As an atheist I tend to look at the big picture. I ask myself has world religions over the centuries done more good than harm? I have worked out my answer. Yes sometimes people cannot see the wood for the trees in the way.

I would think your answer would still be very subjective, I.E . how can you see the ebig picture?

if you are a person whose illness has been "miraculously healed" the answer is probably different than soemone whose family has been taken away by a fanatical suicide bomber! I try to be objective as well, but I can never REALLY get out of my subjective frame of reference...

as someone that is not in either of these circumstances I can see both points of view, but I can't say that they CAN sway my personal opinion either way, they can only be used as "evidence" to backup the opinion I already hold from MY subjective experience...

I just stated my opinion and do not really think a debate will achieve anything. I do not believe in miracles. There have been lots of coincidences or scientifically unexplained things happen. That does not make them miracles just unexplained using todays technology. That is being objective. Blind faith tends to be subjective because it works on the premise that beliefs, myths and legends are fact without there being any need for them to be questioned. Hardly evidence. To people a century ago a computer would be a miracle. 300 years ago you would have been burned as a witch.

O.K. not trying to debate, just wondering HOW exactly ONE would go about seeing the big picture from anything other than a subjective frame of reference..I don't want to debate either, because I don't WHOLLY disagree with you.. I beleive in God, but my definition differs from that which I have seen in organized religion.. I beleive in physics (for the most part) and it points to several contradictions and paradoxes which I can't explain) so I think MOST arguments of faith and religion come down to semantics.. thanks for the conversation on the subject,,

I hope the Bookingagent reads this thread too, and comes back to comment!

Yo John! They is gotten inta relijin now! Help me don't gettin inta relijin wid dem. You know how that goes! LOL

"religion..is a smile on a dog..."
Edie Brickell & New Bohemians

Good grief!! Debra, I live two hours from you-in Greenwood, LA. I know these guys well and these guys don't mean to be brash or mean. Although, Ben may have been a little bit over the top. It's just that so many spammers use this site to "advertise" their own brand of meanness. The music business is full of "takers", as you well know if you've been in the business for very long.

I think the main thing they are pointing out (aside from the grammatical errors in your posts) is they didn't fully understand the benefits of paying someone $50.00.

Tricia, I'm still not clear about that.

joe

I would be more concerned with this rule.
9. All entries will become property of Baker Family Productions.

it seems they also want the ownership of all the entries.

is that standard for a talent contest? I have never paid any atention.

I have read the terms and conditions and grammar and spelling issues apart I am at a loss to see what any person could possibly gain by entering. The prizes are vague and IMO not worth any entrance money. The site is probably one of the least professional I have ever seen and their track record is at best questionable.

I never thought about it like that before, Kenneth. I'm going to put some serious light into that one. LOL

John

You can't help being you and I can't help being me.

think of it this way if you don't believe in God, would you want him to believe in you or would ya rather have that other one believe in you? God don't force you to believe that's his way of culling out people.

I am struggling to accept that there is a God yet some people know what he is thinking..... now that is clever.

IF there is no GOD, THEN who is that whispering in my ear???!!!

P.S. he says he is O.K. with you not beleiving in him... although he struggles with it at times. He is trying to learn to understand you.

My wife gave up trying to understand me years ago.

I know a good Doctor who specialises in people who hear voices LOL.

PS There is apparently no cure but the asylum nurses are very kind and caring and would make you feel at home.

It's all about your spirit, your soul. It's what you do with God light, not whether you believe or not. The real message is TRUTH, something we don't get from man's bull######## religions. And you don't have to belong to those religions to let God light expand from your soul. Religion has taught us not to question because things happen in mysterious ways. So, when someone strays from religious dogma, the Bible or Koran or Torah thumping pompous asses will come down on you with quotes like "Are you an atheist or you just have to believe". Believe in what? What the Roman Army shoved down our throats. Please! Deadly Sin! Fear is a powerful tool used by governments and religions alike and instead of using the Word of Truth, they use the word of fear. Fear of not conforming. If you did not conform in Roman times you were put to death in the name of religion. Is there something wrong with that? But that was then, you say. Religion dictated to monarchs for 1200 years and the House of Inquisition lasted into the 1900's not so long ago. The truth seekers shall be rewarded and if your soul truly, and I say truly projects truth and love then you shall be too.

John

you can't help being you and I can't help being me.

Now, now. My City Recorder-Treasurer in Phoenix had a coaster with a proverb I always try to keep in mind: "You're just jealous because the voices aren't talking to you."

Joe

Do you hear voices, Joe or are you keeping it in mind?

Just keeping it in mind, John. The voices thus far have not seen fit to include me in their discussions.

Joe

Oh, I forgot. If something defamatory is written it's libel, not slander. Slander is verbal defamation of character.