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I'm thinking more along the lines of Big Jim now. And that's scary. But I've been persuaded into thinking that there really is no such thing as an uncoverable song. So while I was showering (when most inspiration hits) I thought of these songs that may be challenging, even though I'm sure they've been covered:
He works hard for the money - Donna Summer
You make me feel like dancin' - Leo Sayer
When you wish upon a star - Jiminey Cricket (aka, Cliff Edwards)
I did it my way - Frank Sinatra's famous song

or a real classic that needs to be done better:
Midnight at the oasis - Maria Muldauer

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Well done Tom - now we are getting somewhere!

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Polk Salad Annie?


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How about: The Night Chicago Died

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Hey Kids,

Just getting caught up....

How about:

"Love Shack" B-52's
"Patience" - Guns N Roses
"Tiny Dancer" - Elton John
"Wildworld" - Cat Stevens
"You Were Meant For Me" - Jewel
"Smooth" - Robert Thomas & Santana
"Dream A Little Dream of Me" - Mama's and Papa's


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Relax: Frankie Goes To Hollywood
Personal Jesus: Depeche Mode
Mama: Genesis


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Originally Posted by BIG JIM MERRILEES
I do not know how to work those voting thingies....tried one before and it failed miserably....could you do it for us?


Okay, I'll collect the list and make a poll on Monday...but I sure hope one poll will contain all these choices. eek

Or do we now have enough choices?...

I have to admit, maybe something truly horrible like "The Night Chicago Died" takes us deeper into the real meaning of Uncoverable. Ack!

Here's the list so far...do we really want more choices?

I'll Never Get Out of This World Alive
Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite
Loch Lommond
Imagine
Stairway to Heaven
Freebird
My Generation
Born to Run
Nowhere Man
Satisfaction
Sunny Afternoon
Layla
Free Man in Paris
Only The Lonely
Werewolves of London
Subterreanean Homesick Blues
Temptation
It Ain’t Me Babe
Isn’t It a Pity
Several Species of Small Furry… (etc)
You May Be Right (I May Be Crazy)
For a Friend
Lawyers, Guns & Money
For the Turnstiles
Copperhead Road
Bohemian Rhapsody
Like A Virgin
Wuthering Heights
He Works Hard for the Money
You Make Me Feel Like Dancin'
When You Wish Upon a Star
My Way
Polk Salad Annie
The Night Chicago Died
Love Shack
Patience
Tiny Dancer
Wildworld
You Were Meant For Me
Smooth
Dream A Little Dream of Me
Relax
Personal Jesus
Mama
I Am Woman
Great Balls of Fire
Angie Baby
Undercover Angel
Rock and Roll Heaven
Fame
Footloose
Let's Hear It For The Boy
Almost Paradise
After All
Ain't No Way To Treat A Lady
I Wish He Didn't Trust Me So Much
Wide Open Spaces
Liza with a Z
Family Tradition
Dreamlover
Copacabana

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Hey Mark:

Can I add one? "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" by the Beatles.

Since I suggested it, you can drop "House of the Rising Sun" - I wasn't in the spirit of things yet... grin

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well, since he said he's going to perform the "uncoverable", I think it would be the biggest thrill to hear Big Jim record a version of Hellen Reddy's, "I am woman."

But that's just me.

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Tom Sssshhhh now you have let out my secret...only at weekends though.

Seriously though it is unfair selecting a gender specific song. I suggest voting for a song that would suit both M AND F. Remember this is going to be posted on Covers in Ourstage not Comedy LOL.

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If you wnat onhe more may I suggest Jerry Lee Lewis' "Great Balls of Fire".. I can't imagine anyone else doing it unless they were going to try to imitate JLL which I think does away with the make it yours thing, I personally would love to hear it with a different feel!

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I cover it nearly every show. Just about every rock act I know also cover it.

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once again,... shows what I know! (do you alter the style at all, or do you do your best JLL impersonation?)I am only asking because the original is such a DEFINITION of HIS style that it is hard for me to picture it in a new way.

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It is a bit of fun done as per JJL but a bit lighthearted tongue in cheek send up.

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Hey not to open a new can of worms here, but i truly don't understand.. what are the legalities involved copyright wise in redoing any of these songs and posting them for distribution on the internet.. wouldn't that be piracy?

or more accurately copyright infringement?

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Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
Relax: Frankie Goes To Hollywood
Personal Jesus: Depeche Mode
Mama: Genesis
Johnny Cash did a killer version of "Personal Jesus"on "The Man Comes around"album.


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Originally Posted by Mark Kaufman
Originally Posted by BIG JIM MERRILEES
I do not know how to work those voting thingies....tried one before and it failed miserably....could you do it for us?


Okay, I'll collect the list and make a poll on Monday...but I sure hope one poll will contain all these choices. eek

Or do we now have enough choices?...

I have to admit, maybe something truly horrible like "The Night Chicago Died" takes us deeper into the real meaning of Uncoverable. Ack!

Here's the list so far...do we really want more choices?

I'll Never Get Out of This World Alive
House of the Rising Sun
Loch Lommond
Imagine
Stairway to Heaven
Freebird
My Generation
Born to Run
Nowhere Man
Satisfaction
Sunny Afternoon
Layla
Free Man in Paris
Only The Lonely
Werewolves of London
Subterreanean Homesick Blues
Temptation
It Ain’t Me Babe
Isn’t It a Pity
Several Species of Small Furry… (etc)
You May Be Right (I May Be Crazy)
For a Friend
Lawyers, Guns & Money
For the Turnstiles
Copperhead Road
Bohemian Rhapsody
Like A Virgin
Wuthering Heights
He Works Hard for the Money
You Make Me Feel Like Dancin'
When You Wish Upon a Star
My Way
Polk Salad Annie
The Night Chicago Died
Love Shack
Patience
Tiny Dancer
Wildworld
You Were Meant For Me
Smooth
Dream A Little Dream of Me
Relax
Personal Jesus
Mama
Thing is, I think Cincinnati is the coverband capital of the world {our "original" musicians don't suck either, then there's folks like me who do both, but I digress!}and believe it or not I think I've heard EVERY one of those songs covered at one time or another. {I've probably covered HALF of em'!}We have a venerable band called "The Menus" who've been around for 25 years that play everything from Neil Diamond to Boston, and do it well. We have a band called The Rusty Griswolds that do all 80's music and yes they do "Mama" and "Relax". There was a now-defunct band called "X-Tra Cheese" that specialized in cheezy 70's tunes and yes, they did "The Night Chicago Died"
We have a guitar virtuoso named Sonny Moorman who tears up "Layla" {among others}. And as far as Dylan, Zevon, Cat Stevens, Floyd ect..Well there's Yours Truly!

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I 've actually heard an industrial metal version of RELAX, but i don't know who the band was.. it was done live and it ROCKED! kinda like a NIN meets ministry style!

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Originally Posted by Kenneth Cade
Hey not to open a new can of worms here, but i truly don't understand.. what are the legalities involved copyright wise in redoing any of these songs and posting them for distribution on the internet.. wouldn't that be piracy?

or more accurately copyright infringement?


People do covers of other people's songs all the time and post them on YouTube. I doubt they contact the songwriters for permission. In terms of recordings and song usage, you typically pay a fee based on the number of CDs or other media produced for sale.

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Hey not to open a new can of worms here, but i truly don't understand.. what are the legalities involved copyright wise in redoing any of these songs and posting them for distribution on the internet.. wouldn't that be piracy?

or more accurately copyright infringement?


Both soundclick and Ourstage have cover sections. You have to assume that they are paying some kind of fee to BMI/ASCAP/etc to allow folks to post songs there.

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in response to the last two answer to my copyright question... I REALLY don't think this is the best place to discuss these issues, BUT just because other people do something doesn't make it right or legal,... and ASSUMING it is ok because it is someone elses sight is EXACTLY what got people in trouble with napster! anyway.. I guess I will just have to try to do some MORE legal research to figure out what is right AND legal o9n this... thanks for the replies though!

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Originally Posted by Kenneth Cade
in response to the last two answer to my copyright question... I REALLY don't think this is the best place to discuss these issues, BUT just because other people do something doesn't make it right or legal,... and ASSUMING it is ok because it is someone elses sight is EXACTLY what got people in trouble with napster! anyway.. I guess I will just have to try to do some MORE legal research to figure out what is right AND legal o9n this... thanks for the replies though!


That is not quite right, what got those sites in trouble was posting music that was produced by others for sale, not covers of the works. For example, putting up a recording of John Lennon singing Imagine would be impinging on the potential sales of that song by the rightful owner.

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i was talking about the assuming.. the people tthat downloaded were called "pirates" and all they did was assume something was O.K. because someone was running a site that gave them a forum to do it.. they assumed it was legal.. because they were just SHARING and if it weren't someone would have stopped napster... is it really LEGAL for youtube to post all of that music.. i listen to stuff there all the time.. I don't copy it so i am not a pirate, but I DOUBT it pays the artist! again this conversation belongs on another topic.. I truly just don't get it, so I'll just keep my mouth shut until i figure it all out ( or try to anyway!)

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Ourstage pays the fees so their members can post cover songs. So it's taken care of according to what they told me.

If you take a vote on which song, then it will be the easiest and most boring option probably.. you should pick something really off the wall so that people will really go "what in the hell is going on" when they come across it.

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How about doing one of JPF Mentor Alan O'Day's hits?

Angie Baby?
Undercover Angel?
Rock and Roll Heaven?

I bet he'd even weigh in on which one he liked the best.

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Or we could have you guys do one of Dean Pitchfords songs.. Fame.. Footloose.. Let's Hear It For The Boy... Almost Paradise.. After All.. .etc....


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Or how about Harriet Schock's "Ain't No Way To Treat A Lady" or perhaps Harold Payne's "I wish he didn't trust me so much" (which he co-wrote with Bobby Womack)?

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Of JPF Award winner Susan Gibon's "Wide Open Spaces?"


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Hi Bob I also have covered about half of the songs on the list. Most of the other songs I have either never heard of or I do not think are worth covering. I am of course prepared to give it a go for the sake of the exercise.

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Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
Ourstage pays the fees so their members can post cover songs. So it's taken care of according to what they told me.

If you take a vote on which song, then it will be the easiest and most boring option probably.. you should pick something really off the wall so that people will really go "what in the hell is going on" when they come across it.

Brian


I'm glad to hear that, Brian, I've been wanting to post cover songs there for some time, asked the question more than once on the mentor board but never got an answer. I'll do that now, thanks.

I agree that any song can be covered, but I think there are many songs that, if covered, would most likely never be hits again.

Here are my two offerings:

"Liza with a Z" by Liza Minelli

"Family Tradition" by Hank Williams Jr.


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"Stairway to Heaven
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Freebird"

You are just killing me today. I've got to stop laughing and get back to play.

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BTW if anybody is interested I have produced a cover of the furry Animals blah blah blah thing by Pink Floyd...added my own twist. It can be heard at the link below.

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Born to Run OR
Dreamlover Bobby Darin
OR how about
Copacabana--- Barry M no one's every covered that one (I don't think)


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Okay, I say we stop now and post this and decide on Monday. Anyone disagree? After all, check out the choices...

I'll Never Get Out of This World Alive
Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite
Loch Lommond
Imagine
Stairway to Heaven
Freebird
My Generation
Born to Run
Nowhere Man
Satisfaction
Sunny Afternoon
Layla
Free Man in Paris
Only The Lonely
Werewolves of London
Subterreanean Homesick Blues
Temptation
It Ain’t Me Babe
Isn’t It a Pity
Several Species of Small Furry… (etc)
You May Be Right (I May Be Crazy)
For a Friend
Lawyers, Guns & Money
For the Turnstiles
Copperhead Road
Bohemian Rhapsody
Like A Virgin
Wuthering Heights
He Works Hard for the Money
You Make Me Feel Like Dancin'
When You Wish Upon a Star
My Way
Polk Salad Annie
The Night Chicago Died
Love Shack
Patience
Tiny Dancer
Wildworld
You Were Meant For Me
Smooth
Dream A Little Dream of Me
Relax
Personal Jesus
Mama
I Am Woman
Great Balls of Fire
Angie Baby
Undercover Angel
Rock and Roll Heaven
Fame
Footloose
Let's Hear It For The Boy
Almost Paradise
After All
Ain't No Way To Treat A Lady
I Wish He Didn't Trust Me So Much
Wide Open Spaces
Liza with a Z
Family Tradition
Dreamlover
Copacabana


Maybe given the huge list we should allow three choices?

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I think it needs cut down a tad. I suggest taking out all the gender specific and obscure stuff. A lot were just mentioned in jest (I hope.... gulp)

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Yeah, I'm too impatient. I'll chop a few and post a new thread with the poll...I'm afraid if we wait a whole week we'll have hundreds.

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Originally Posted by BIG JIM MERRILEES
BTW if anybody is interested I have produced a cover of the furry Animals blah blah blah thing by Pink Floyd...added my own twist. It can be heard at the link below.


It just doesn't seem the same without the acid! youare too funny! I'll bet you won't be adding that one to your set anytime soon!

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Okay, I pulled the trigger. The poll is now posted on a new thread. Let the voting begin!

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Yes, I don't think we need any more, also many of those in the list are stock set songs anyway (which surely isn't the point of this thread) There are also quite a few that I don't even know, maybe they were stateside only hits. A pre-requisite should be that the song was a hit single (as opposed to an album track) and preferably both sides of the Atlantic. Also anything over 4 minutes should be ditched. Get your hatchet out Mark smile

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I took a big swig and chose let the people decide. eek

And if I gotta sing I Am Woman, well, isn't it a pity?

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I voted.


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Originally Posted by Tom Tracy
So the question arises: how do you define "uncoverable"? A song that is so complex and technically challenging that no one has ever tried to perform it live (that Pink Floyd one), or a song & performance that is so in-grained into our minds that we can't accept it performed by another artist ("Imagine" John Lennon).
Patti Labelle did a MONSTEROUS version of "Imagine" at "Live Aid" in 85'{as well as "Forever Young " by Dylan}

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Originally Posted by Tom Tracy
As I was reading responses, I thought of Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody. Even Queen couldn't pull the whole piece off live. It has been covered by an acapella vocal group, but I'm with Greg on nominating this one. Most of us know it, but probably never performed it.
You win the prize Tom... When the ACTUAL BAND can't pull it off live...


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Just a note..you don't see many cover bands pull off ANYTHING by Frank Zappa, although my aforementioned Cincy band "The Menus" pull off "Cosmic Debris".

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[quote=BIG JIM MERRILEES]Hi Bob I also have covered about half of the songs on the list. Most of the other songs I have either never heard of or I do not think are worth covering. I am of course prepared to give it a go for the sake of the exercise. You go for it bro'! I've got better things to do!


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I LUV you folks, but I'm going to BED!


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I just finished coming home from my gig and put on "Rock n Roll Heaven" and I'm familiar with "Angel Baby" too! {Tobey Beau?}


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Bohemian Rhapsody has been pulled of MANY times.. I bet I've had over 100 versions of it in the last couple years in the awards and we even nominated 1 version of it in our Cover category and it finished second that year I think. One guy with an acoustic guitar. So there's nothing original about covering that song. Happens all the time.

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Hey Brian - I like your suggestion about covering a JPF member song - there's some GOOD ones there. I think that should be the NEXT challenge though after this one.

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