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Yes, but at least when someone tells a story, and says it's from their own life, then you have the original source, and you can evaluate the information from the original source -- "consider the source," as they say.

An anonymous e-mail from a man named "Dave," on the other hand, is meaningless. There is no source to even consider.

Aw, Humm,
I have been pondering about all those protesters about this incident in Minneapolis. It was of course a Tragedy that should not of happened but with our system of Justice a Remedy is in progress. And I agree.
Now if I remember correctly a News Person asked Joe Biden if he thought there was systemic racism in the country and he said yes. Now lets examine this word systemic. Up until now the word systemic was used describing certain pesticides that when applied entered the plant and when an insect ate the plant it was poisened and died.
Naturally Systemic Pesticides aren't used on food crops for ovious reasons. So I have to ask, with all those protesters all over the world, wearing their Halos is racism really systemic or are some of the politicians just blowing smoke ??

in this case Systemic means is racism a problem in our society, like police force, businesses, job market. Is it a part of our system.

I think there Is racism in the police department . When I was growing up I remember some kids said they were joining the police department and couldn't wait to get their first N word. Flat out no bones. I guess I was expected to say...yeah go get them???? I don't think they ever had a problem during their careers, so maybe it was all talk

It's definitely there but sometimes circumstances cause the racism. Is it racist to be scared of an Arab on an airplane? Some say yes, but it's not unreasonable to be fearful.

The one thing that keeps going through my mind is can anybody gurantee me that if he had stopped me, he wouldn't have put his knee on my neck? He would have said, your white so I'll let you up? I don't know, maybe he's just a bad person.

Floyd was a criminal, he shouldn't be vigilized as a martyr, but he shouldn't have been killed eitger, he was handcuffed. based on the size of him, I'm pretty sure he could whooped that cop if he wasn't cuffed.

It's a problem that the solutions cause problems too. I saw one group of white liberals begging black people for forgiveness, which I thought was so lame.

I don't have answers. You can't blame the police department for racist cops . You can't stop people from being racist, and everybody has a little. The decent people don't let it get out of hand

He paid ZERO price for it. He got re-elected didn't he? And he didn't just do it ONCE... I recall at least 3 different photos of him doing it at different times.

Have you guys not been out of North America? The rest of the world is far and away more racist and bigoted than North America. China? Japan? North Korea? India? Iran? Russia? Turkey? Israel? Nearly anyplace in Africa? Italy? Germany? France? Switzerland? Croatia? Poland? Hungary? Slovakia? Slovenia? etc. etc. etc. I have been to over 40 countries. I know people well in another 50+. We have the most diverse country in the the world. We have larger mixed race populations than anywhere else in the world by a mile.

It doesn't mean those countries are all massively racist, but they are all less tolerant of different races, ethnicities, religions and cultures than the USA.

Unreal. The USA and Canada are far and away more tolerant than anywhere else in the world to diversity of all types. All races have racists. All groups have good and bad people. ALL OF THEM.

It would be easy to say he should have doubled down. It is hard to be the minority in the group that disagrees. He is in the public. But it is good that at least some of them speaks for civilization.

Definitely the psycho so called cop that inflamed the current debate should be out of society. But that does not represent most, however ardent the individual may be in their views.

I agree with Brian. The US is way less racist than many other countries in the world. We've come a long way from a very dark past - you can't get a whole lot more racist than slavery and Jim Crow, but that's not who we are today, at least the vast majority of us and especially the younger generations. There are still big disparities, but unlike many countries, including some that Brian names, we don't define nationality in ethnic terms and reject those who don't fit.

What thrusts the problem into the spotlight here more than elsewhere is the more violent nature of our society and the higher stakes involved every time a police officer confronts a suspect. There is always a possibility that the suspect might be armed. Police here put their life on the line in a way that their counterparts in other developed countries don't. It's not surprising that shootings occur that turn out not to be justified. In fact, it's surprising they don't happen more often. Every suspect is a potential danger, even an enemy. This confrontational mindset seems to spill over into incidents where guns are not involved like the Floyd case and others. Add in the racist attitudes that do seem to exist in some officers and you have a recipe for very bad outcomes.

Well we're supposed to be better than other countries . That's part of it. We were founded on equality it's in the constitution. Other countries don't have that doctrine.

As far as cops, I support them. And nobody is going to want to be a cop if this keeps happening.

I don't think you can be an effective cop if you are not intimidating, and if people don't think you can or will do anything to them regardless of what they do.

I dont agree with brutality, it's not always as cut and dry as some of the videos we've seen. And there are racist cops, but what message does it send?

When a cop stops you, you can now run away, steal a taser, resist arrest, and all along you know the cop can't hurt you. It's a bit of an unfair average to somebody breaking the law....he can't touch me...and I know it

I don't support the latest cases, but I'm concerned about how a cop can do his job, especially when we need them.

Actually all functioning democracies have that doctrine in their constitution, although obviously the US constitution was first and in many ways provided an example for others. A lot of the racism in European countries is exacerbated by the fact that the "strangers" in their midst are relatively recent arrivals, mostly since the 1960s. It takes a while to form the personal relationships that tend to be the most effective way to break down racism. That's why you will find stronger racist attitudes in eastern Europe than in the west. For instance, eastern Germany tends to have more of these problems than the former West Germany, where immigrant communities, particularly Turks, have been there for generations. The other big difference, of course, is that these immigrants came of their own free will, and there is also the whole religious thing with so many being Muslim.

America has been in a charmed position with the geography. Not the natural enemies as close as the next American state like in Europe.
Then there is modern technology with the creeping drug and human trafficking war. Trump was knocked in his campaign in 2016 for pointing out that there are governments that are not as equipped to deal with those wars along with the social injustice. And there are some big name donors to some of these radical groups that would make the black panthers among other leftist organizations look like choirboys.