Who's Online Now
10 members (Bill Draper, Gavin Sinclair, Gary E. Andrews, bennash, Sunset Poet, rpirone, Fdemetrio, Guy E. Trepanier, Calvin, Everett Adams), 983 guests, and 293 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Register Today!
Welcome to the Just Plain Folks forums! You are currently viewing our forums as a Guest which gives you limited access to most of our discussions and to other features.

By joining our free community you will have access to post and respond to topics, communicate privately with our users (PM), respond to polls, upload content, and access many other features. Registration is fast, simple, and absolutely free; so please join our community today!
ShoutChat
Comment Guidelines: Do post respectful and insightful comments. Don't flame, hate, spam.
What's Going On
Name That Tune Challenge
by Bill Draper - 05/01/24 04:48 PM
Making money , Drum roll with music
by bennash - 05/01/24 02:28 PM
Grassroots Music Festival, Pike County
by Gary E. Andrews - 05/01/24 01:29 PM
Leafs
by Gary E. Andrews - 05/01/24 01:05 PM
Ace Of Cups
by Gary E. Andrews - 05/01/24 12:17 PM
New Digital Album
by Fdemetrio - 05/01/24 09:29 AM
New Digital Album
by Ken Randall - 05/01/24 03:46 AM
Problem I foresee with ai
by Fdemetrio - 04/30/24 10:06 AM
Jesse Harris
by Gary E. Andrews - 04/30/24 09:26 AM
Focal Point Concerts ยท Maplewood, MO
by Gary E. Andrews - 04/30/24 06:41 AM
Just Another Errand (w/ instruments)
by bennash - 04/29/24 05:04 PM
Fly With Angels
by bennash - 04/29/24 04:04 PM
Fox News Reports Stunning Archeological Discovery.
by couchgrouch - 04/29/24 09:58 AM
This is Audilia
by Gary E. Andrews - 04/28/24 09:36 PM
The World We Know
by rpirone - 04/27/24 11:53 PM
WORLD5 To Release Third Studio Album May 10, 2024
by World5 Music - 04/27/24 02:48 PM
It's About Me
by bennash - 04/27/24 01:56 PM
OnLine...
by JAPOV - 04/26/24 09:17 PM
Inspirational Videos Post Them Here
by Sunset Poet - 04/26/24 05:20 PM
.
by Fdemetrio - 04/25/24 01:36 AM
Work for hire producer
by Brian Austin Whitney - 04/24/24 05:42 PM
Cody Ikerd Music
by Gary E. Andrews - 04/24/24 11:36 AM
.
by Fdemetrio - 04/24/24 10:25 AM
.
by Sunset Poet - 04/24/24 08:09 AM
Bend Sinister
by Bill Draper - 04/24/24 02:03 AM
YELLIN AT CLOUDS
by Bill Draper - 04/23/24 07:07 PM
.
by Fdemetrio - 04/23/24 10:08 AM
.
by Fdemetrio - 04/23/24 12:41 AM
Jack and Gin
by Gary E. Andrews - 04/22/24 10:57 PM
.
by Fdemetrio - 04/22/24 10:39 PM
Top Posters
Calvin 19,857
Travis david 12,264
Kevin Emmrich 10,941
Jean Bullock 10,330
Kaley Willow 10,240
Two Singers 9,649
Joice Marie 9,186
Mackie H. 9,003
glynda 8,683
Mike Dunbar 8,574
Tricia Baker 8,318
couchgrouch 8,167
Colin Ward 7,911
Corey 7,357
Vicarn 6,916
Mark Kaufman 6,589
ben willis 6,114
Lynn Orloff 5,788
Louis 5,725
Linda Sings 5,608
Fdemetrio 5,211
KimberlyinNC 5,210
Neil Cotton 4,909
Derek Hines 4,893
DonnaMarilyn 4,670
Blake Hill 4,528
Bob Cushing 4,389
Roy Cooper 4,271
Sunset Poet 4,208
Bill Osofsky 4,199
Tom Shea 4,195
Cindy Miller 4,178
TamsNumber4 4,171
MFB III 4,143
nightengale 4,096
JAPOV 3,999
E Swartz 3,985
beechnut79 3,878
Caroline 3,865
Kolstad 3,845
Dan Sullivan 3,710
Dottie 3,427
joewatt 3,411
Bill Cooper 3,279
John Hoffman 3,199
Skip Johnson 3,027
Pam Hurley 3,007
Terry G 3,005
Nigel Quin 2,891
PopTodd 2,890
Harriet Ames 2,870
MidniteBob 2,761
Nelson 2,616
Tom Tracy 2,558
Jerry Jakala 2,524
Al Alvarez 2,499
Eric Thome 2,448
Hummingbird 2,401
Stan Loh 2,263
Sam Wilson 2,246
Wendy D 2,235
Judy Hollier 2,232
Erica Ellis 2,202
maccharles 2,134
TrumanCoyote 2,096
Marty Helly 2,041
DukeWill 2,002
floyd jane 1,985
Clint Anglin 1,904
cindyrella 1,888
David Wright 1,866
Clairejeanne 1,851
Cindy LaRosa 1,824
Ronald Boyt 1,675
Iggy 1,652
Noel Downs 1,633
Rick Heenan 1,608
Cal 1,574
GocartMoz 1,559
Jack Swain 1,554
Pete Larsen 1,537
Ann Tygart 1,529
Tom Breshers 1,487
RogerS 1,481
Tom Franz 1,473
Chuck Crowe 1,441
Ralph Blight 1,440
Rick Norton 1,429
Kenneth Cade 1,429
bholt 1,411
Letha Allen 1,409
in2piano 1,404
Stan Simons 1,402
Deej56 1,385
mattbanx 1,384
Jen Shaner 1,373
Charlie Wong 1,347
KevinP 1,324
Vondelle 1,316
Tom W. 1,313
Jan Petter 1,301
scottandrew 1,294
lane1777 1,280
Gerry 1,280
DakLander 1,265
IronKnee 1,262
PeteG 1,242
Ian Ferrin 1,235
VNORTH2 1,229
Glen King 1,214
IdeaGuy 1,209
AaronAuthier 1,177
summeoyo 1,174
Diane Ewing 1,162
ckiphen 1,124
joro 1,082
BobbyJoe 1,075
S.DEE 1,040
yann 1,037
David Gill 1,035
9ne 1,035
Tony A 1,016
argo 986
peaden 984
90 dB 964
Wolvman 960
Jak Kelly 912
krtinberg 890
Drifter 886
Petra 883
RJC 845
Brenda152 840
Nadia 829
ant 798
Juan 797
bennash 788
TKO 784
Dayson 781
frahmes 781
teletwang 762
Andy K 750
Andy Kemp 749
tbryson 737
Jackie444 731
Irwin 720
3daveyO3 704
Dixie 701
Joy Boy 695
Pat Hardy 692
Knute 686
Lee Arten 678
Moosesong 668
Katziis 652
R.T.MOORE 638
quality 637
CG King 622
douglas 621
R&M 614
Mel 614
NaomiSue 601
Shandy 590
Ria 587
TAMERA64 583
qbaum 570
nitepiano 566
pRISCILLA 556
Tink2 553
musica 539
deanbell 528
RobertK 527
BonzaiWag 523
Roderic 522
BB Wilbur 513
goodfolks 499
Zeek 487
Stu 486
Steve P. 481
KathyW 462
allenb 459
MaxG 458
Philjo 454
fanito 448
trush48 448
dmk 442
Rob L 439
arealrush 437
DGR 436
avweek 435
Stephen D 433
Emmy 431
marquez 422
kit 419
Softkrome 417
kyrksongs 415
RRon 408
Laura G. 407
VNORTH 407
Debra 407
eb 406
cuebald 399
EdPerrone 399
Dannyk1 395
Hobart 395
Rob B. 393
Davyboy49 393
Smile 389
GJShades 387
Alek 386
Ezt 384
tone 380
Marla 380
Ann_F 379
iggyiggy 378
coalminer 377
java 374
ddreuter 371
spidey 371
sweetsong 370
danny 367
Jim Ryan 360
papaG 353
Z - man 350
JamesDF5 348
John K 348
Jaden 344
TheBaz 340
Steggy 339
leif 339
tonedeaf 336
rickwork 334
Eddie Ray 332
Johnboy 328
Bob Lever 328
Helicon1 327
lucian 326
Muskie 321
kc 319
Z. Mulls 318
ptondreau 313
ONOFFON 312
Chris B. 310
trush 304
ed323 297
Ellen M 294
markus-ky 293
lizzorn 291
nicnac49 290
Char 286
ktunes 285
Top Likes Received
JAPOV 88
VNORTH2 46
bennash 38
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
#53146 12/01/01 07:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 512
K
Serious Contributor
OP Offline
Serious Contributor
K
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 512
Some of you may remember this one. I originally wrote and posted it almost a year ago. I've now pulled it off the shelf and am trying to finalize it. I know it's long -- the story commands it (not thinking 'commercial'). The main criticism by some at the time was concerning how the mansion came to be the way it did. Some critics felt that it wasn't believable, that some kind of explanation was necessary -- while others felt it was fine, that in a song, the listener can just accept it. Well, I'm taking a stab at trying to satisfy the former, and have written an intro (that wasn't there before) and am trying to see if it works. I personally feel that the way the intro is presented in spoken form with a quiet variation of the chorus music, an interesting contrast is created. Is the intro needed at all, or if it is, is how I've handled it appropriate? I don't know for sure and would appreciate feedback. There was also the opinion by some in the original version, that the verses seemed a bit long with the music (original posted music file). To try and deal with that I've picked up the tempo somewhat -- but I'll worry about re-recording later. Finally, I decided that the Victoria's Secret/James Bond references stay -- despite that a couple of critics found that it 'cheapened' the story. In a full production, I hear a lot of sax. Anyhow, all comments welcome to help me finish this one. Thanks.

MASQUERADE MANSION (6:10)
Copyright 2001, Tom Guertin All Rights Reserved

(Intro – Spoken to very light chorus music)
Moonlight, casts a spell over Masquerade Mansion
Enchanted home of a rich man
Long since laid to rest
In life, he'd forsaken the love of his only companion
To atone, his spirit hosts galas
Saves the souls of invited guests

Slight pause, then brief verse music intro with lead sax

(Verse)
Tonight, she’s a 24-carat gold-digger
Blessed with natural beauty
A coquette dressed to kill
Feels right, lost inside her vanity mirror
Rides a limousine service
To the house on the hill

(Build)
But Victoria’s anguish
Lies deep in her heart
Behind her outer strength
A china doll longing for a savior

(Chorus)
She hides behind her disguise at Masquerade Mansion
Believes that riches will heal the pain of her youth
The mystical force that resides at Masquerade Mansion
Allows guests to wear a facade but must face their truth

(Verse)
Tonight, he’s a big-game fortune hunter
A natural charmer
So suave and debonair
Spotlight, nobody steals his thunder
Drives a rented Mercedes
To the lavish affair

(Build)
With Victoria’s secret
James shares a bond
Behind his outer strength
A broken man longing for a savior

(Chorus)
He hides behind his disguise at Masquerade Mansion
Believes that riches will heal the pain of his youth
The mystical force that resides at Masquerade Mansion
Allows guests to wear a facade but must face their truth

(Verse)
The Grand Hall hosts a banquet like no other
Elaborate costumes
Swing to sounds of big band (music given a brief big-band sound)
Gold-digger turns to see fortune hunter
Walk across the room
And reach for her hand

(Build)
Victoria stands bewildered
As she sees beyond his mask
Drawn to a kindred spirit
And feels no danger

(Build)
James kneels down before her
Kisses the back of her hand
Embraces a kindred spirit
And not a stranger

(Chorus)
Love conquers disguise with the magic of Masquerade Mansion
Love heals the pain of its patrons wronged in their youth
Loneliness dies with the magic of Masquerade Mansion
Guests leave with the love of their life and a deal with the truth

(Bridge)
James and Victoria confide their sadness
With a trust that was heaven-sent
Both abandoned by impoverished parents
They tried to hide behind fancy dress...
Tried to buy happiness...
But always bought a whole lot less...

(Chorus)
They conquered disguise with the magic of Masquerade Mansion
Healed the pain and the scars derived in their youth
Their loneliness died with the magic of Masquerade Mansion
They leave with the love of their life and a deal with the truth

(Tag)
Leave with the love of their life and a deal with the truth


[This message has been edited by Tom Guertin (edited 12-01-2001).]


Laziness breeds fatique - Passion breeds action
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 11,534
Likes: 28
Top 10 Poster
Offline
Top 10 Poster
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 11,534
Likes: 28
I think I remember this Tom, at least when you mention Victoria's Secret and James Bond.

I think this is a really good story, and length be d$#%^md if you need it to fully express the story. Here I agree, though I suppose everything can be condensed.

I am somewhat lukewarm about the chorus though, but I think the primary sinner is the last line.

maybe

pierces masks and veils and uncovers the truth

all in all great story and I know your music will do this justice.

Best to Louise!


If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop

Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 1,997
R
Top 100 Poster
Offline
Top 100 Poster
R
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 1,997
Hi Tom!
I liked this when I first saw it and still do. I thought Victoria/James was brilliant, so I'm glad you didnt take it out.
When I listened to it the first time I didnt even think about it being 6 minutes long.

The intro looks very interesting (for some strange reason, I'm hearing Vincent Price do the intro LOL)
I cant wait to hear the full production.
Take Care,
Ria

------------------
http://angelfire.lycos.com/amiga/riassonglyrics

Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 29,275
"
Top 10 Poster
Offline
Top 10 Poster
"
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 29,275
Hi Tom!

Very Entertaining...yet my Skeptic's Mind
WONDERS if TWO "Gold-Diggers"ll ever REALLY Be HAPPY with Each Other...

For me, that's where Fantasy Clashes with Reality...

Enjoyable Read, However!

Good Luck with it, Amigo!
Big Guy-Hugs,
Stan

Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,675
R
Top 100 Poster
Offline
Top 100 Poster
R
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,675
Hi Tom,
I remember this one and I recall liking it for the most part. Here is my take. I'll comment as I read it for the next first time! [Linked Image]

MASQUERADE
*Intrigueing title!

Intro
*I love this! But, personally I think it would work best sung/sanged what the heck!
Also, I modified it a tad for what I wanted to hear. Toss if you wish! [Linked Image]

Moonlight is cast over Masquerade Mansion
Enchanted home of a Duke long since laid to rest
In life he forsakened the love of companions
Now his spirit throws parties For invited guests

v1
*The broken sentences causes me to pause and think about what is being said. Especially this line:

((Feels right, lost inside her vanity mirror
Rides a limousine service)) I think you might want to add "as she" rides or something.

Just had time for a quickie! May try back later! [Linked Image]
Good luck Tom!

RB

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 512
K
Serious Contributor
OP Offline
Serious Contributor
K
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 512
Thanks to all. Some more food for thought -- that's great. John, I was also wondering if I phrased my intent properly in the last line of the chorus. I'll be thinking about that one.

No one (so far) seems to think that the intro *doesn't* work, so I guess the set-up isn't corny and is seen to *work*. S'pose I'll keep it, ('tho it WILL be spoken, Ron -- but thanks for your thoughts).

Ria, the Vincent Price thought is kinda cool. I can hear that kind of effect. If anyone caught the close-up of Bob Dylan while performing via satellite at the Academy Awards??? -- he looked remarkably like VP. It was scary and maybe he could do my intro -- naw!!!

Stanley, you're probably right that in reality two gold-diggers won't work out, but in my *fantasy song*, they were never *really* good at being gold-diggers in the first place. They were made for each other.

Thanks again.

Tom


Laziness breeds fatique - Passion breeds action
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 4,178
Top 100 Poster
Offline
Top 100 Poster
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 4,178
Hi Tom,

Glad to see you dusting one of my favorites off the shelf. Hope you are working on the music for it.

Whoops, quick sidetrack here (regarding "Guilt"... a female artist just came to mind, so before I forget... "Nelly Furtado".)

Back to Masquerade Mansion. I remember when I read this, it had an erie "Hotel California" feel to it and that's one of my all time favorite songs, so that's a good thing. I really like the idea of a spoken intro, though I'm not sure how that would play on the radio. As an album (cd) cut, it would be outstanding, though and I believe it is a bit naked without it. I can almost hear it also. Love also that you put in a sax, it's my favorite instrument, besides the drum.

The character names are brilliant and I love it. As far as gold diggers not making a good pair, I say, "birds of a feather..." and see them hitting it off, finding out what life is REALLY about and living happily ever after... Did I ever mention, I'm just a hopeless romantic at heart?

Anyway, I was really pumped to find this lyric on the board and hope you'll let me know when the music is available!!

[Linked Image] Tink

[This message has been edited by TINK (edited 12-04-2001).]


The Artist formerly known as TINK ;\)

I write so I can breathe...

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pageartist.cfm?bandID=29337
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 3,072
Top 100 Poster
Offline
Top 100 Poster
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 3,072
Hello Tom! Well I'll go with the crowd here. I like this one and like the idea as a whole. The intro seems fitting for an all out production. This is for sure an album (or should I say cd) cut. But I wouldn't let the length interfere with what you are trying to create. Nice job!


David


Link Copied to Clipboard
Support Just Plain Folks

We would like to keep the membership in Just Plain Folks FREE! Your donation helps support the many programs we offer including Road Trips and the Music Awards.


Newest Members
chriscastle, yasir252, cathennashira, Samwise, HappySousa
21,470 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums117
Topics125,790
Posts1,161,586
Members21,470
Most Online37,523
Jan 25th, 2020
Just Plain Quotes
"Sometimes, the best thing you can say, isn't the easiest thing" -Brian Austin Whitney
Today's Birthdays
Chris Jay Becker (65)
Popular Topics(Views)
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5