Originally Posted by Lisa Gundling
Brian,

Thank you for your thank you.

For the record:

1. I mentioned my 2007 donation in order to illustrate a point to Midnite.

2. You came in and insinuated that I had donated only in 2013. I brought up my 2007 donation again, to correct the record.

I said, "I've got what this is all about" because I do -- I get it. You are so busy and overwhelmed with so many important people, you can't possibly be expected to remember a donation like mine. That's fine. Congratulations on all your successes.

Since you called me "cryptic" I will tell you why I thought you'd remember my donation, no matter how measly it was.

Here's the story of my small donation:

I joined JPF in 2006. In 2007, a member pulled up the 4th lyric I had ever written, and started a challenge thread around it, stating something to the effect of, "Let’s see who can write a worse, more cliche-filled lyric than Lisa! Can anyone write one with more cliches? Give it a try!”

JPF members then started writing bad, cliche-filled lyrics, trying to make theirs worse than mine.

I took offense and the whole thread turned ugly. I asked the original poster to please stop the entire thread.

You came in and defended the "Bad Lisa Lyric Challenge Thread," saying I was being too sensitive, because the original poster had agreed to take my name off of it. I had pointed out that it was too late, as everyone had already seen that it was about me, so it was wrong for the mocking to continue.

You got mad when I argued with you over it, and I told you that I was going to leave JPF, but that I appreciated the past year at the forum, and would send you a donation. I sent a donation, and you never thanked me. A few months later, you apparently started a thread, thanking the 2008 donors.

I had only been on the forum a shorter while at that point, so it was a fine donation, given the short amount of time I'd been here.

Lisa


First off, I never claimed you ONLY made a donation in 2013. But I did point out your name WAS listed as a donor in 2013 because you failed to mention it, whether on purpose or by accident.

Next, I did some searches on Google to find this back and forth to see exactly what was said to who and why. Please point out the post since I find no record when searching for that song title on jpfolks.com. It doesn't mean it isn't there, but I have no memory of anything going down just as you describe. BUT!!!! All of this does jog a memory of what happened before you left. The reason you said you left to me came down to one specific comment I made:

I said you were in a "PISSING MATCH" with another member you were arguing with and you said that term was so offensive to you, that you left. The rest of what you claim above is some sort of weird revisionist history or if it had something to do with you leaving, you didn't tell me that, you blamed it squarely on that comment.

For many years I had great instant recall of names, events, songs, faces and was known for my incredible near photographic and audible memory. But 3 major strokes took a bite out of it and without some help (i.e. time frame, location... something...) to jog my memory, it's hard to recall stuff like that as well as I used to. But this HAS reminded me and though I can't find the post in question (even google has it's limits on a site with over a 100 million of pages of text) I remember the quote and your angry reception to it clear as day. And frankly, that common statement is so non offensive to people unless they simply want to be offended by something, I always thought it was a dumb reason to leave a place that had been so supportive of you. And I do also remember, after you mentioned it above, that you said you were going to send a donation, but it wasn't one made in appreciation, but instead it was some type of "statement" move you wanted to make as you left. The fact that it got deposited along with other donations and sales checks should be irrelevant. Do you honestly expect me to recall every single piece of mail and every detail of every donation on top of everything else, for the past 31 years? Seriously? And you failed to mention that all such donations received thank you emails, directly if contact info was included, or generally via the newsletter where we regularly thanked contributors. If the money was given in sincerity, there shouldn't be any additional expectation of reciprocation and it's just ridiculous for you to expect people to remember all that. And if Linda received it, how would she know that Lisa Gundling was supposed to receive some additional special acknowledgment? And why is it that when you have an argument with someone else, you end up turning it around on me? Wasn't it Bob you were mad at first?

And if you can find anyone who has met me in person who suggests I don't treat everyone, whether they are unknown or famous, or for that matter, friendly or a jerk to me, the same and offer them equal time on stage as everyone else, equal recognition in our music awards, equal coverage in our newsletter or anywhere else, or equal ability to post on this board, please bring them forward. Otherwise, please acknowledge that your statement is neither factual nor fair in the face of 31 years of records that prove the opposite is true.




Brian Austin Whitney
Founder
Just Plain Folks
jpfolkspro@gmail.com
Skype: Brian Austin Whitney
Facebook: www.facebook.com/justplainfolks

"Don't sit around and wait for success to come to you... it doesn't know the way." -Brian Austin Whitney

"It's easier to be the bigger man when you actually are..." -Brian Austin Whitney

"Sometimes all you have to do to inspire humans to greatness is to give them a reason and opportunity to do something great." -Brian Austin Whitney