Brian,

I have no idea how to find the threads from back then, other than handpicking through it.

And right — your memory is correct. I got very upset when you said I was having a pissing contest. I thought it was inappropriate language to use toward a member, as I’d never heard a business person talk to his members that way. I did ask for an apology, but that wasn’t the reason I left. I believe I laid out a bunch of bulleted points, a couple of times.

I had assumed, at that time, that you would think it would be inappropriate for a member to start a brand new thread, the subject being, the mocking of someone else’s lyric. But, you repeatedly said that mocking a lyric in that manner was no big deal. You did say it would be a problem if I had been personally attacked. Since I wasn’t personally attacked, the matter was moot, in your eyes.

That challenge thread lyric had many complications. I had written the lyric in 2006. In 2007, another member pulled it up and rewrote it for me. Then, another member started the cliche challenge thread, with the mocking of the lyric. I expressed my distaste, and the member who started the challenge thread took my name off of it. But, the cliche lyrics continued, which I thought was insulting. Two days later, I asked for the original poster to please have the thread removed.

Then, all hell broke loose, as only JPFers can do it.

And you’re right about the donation, too … I thought about it and realized I didn’t say I was giving the donation in appreciation. I did say, in a very sarcastic manner, that I was going to donate to JPF so you could fix the site. I had been trying to figure out how to remove myself as a member, and I found that there was no way to remove my name. I called JPF “Hotel California” because once you get here, you can never leave. (Well, your name can never leave.) I then said , sarcastically, that I’d donate, to help you fix that.

I did not purposely leave out my place on the 2013 Donation Honor Roll. I had been talking to Midnite, and he kept mentioning the honor roll. I made the assumption that he saw my 2013 donation. He could not have known of donations prior to 2008, so I brought that one up.

Finally, you asked why I turned this argument on you. Well, honestly, I thought I was talking to Bob on this thread. But suddenly, YOU appeared on this thread, talking to ME!!

I believe that you have mentored tons of people wonderfully and have been kind and gracious. But, that simply was not my experience with that situation. I was a brand new writer, and I felt my work was unfairly parodied and mocked. You called me thin skinned at the time, and that was true.

Also, Brian, I think that you have built a wonderful organization over the years and you have worked very hard, and you should feel proud.

Lisa