Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
I think Trump has taught us that it does not matter one bit who The President is.

Life as most of us know it is the same today as it was before he got in. And even people who don't like him are going to try to say something positive because
they are Republicans, and they'd rather have a mess of a Republican than a great Dem.

The whole party thing doesn't sit well with me. To me people who vote for their party without looking at who's running are being too idealistic.

I didnt vote last time cause i didn't like either of them, and maybe not voting sends a message to find us some candidates!

Martin where does Trump consistency come in? Where is the wall? Mexico was gonna pay for it.... Where is the improvements on infrastructure he mentioned on his victory speech?

I dont mind Trump really, but he hasnt helped the middle class and hasn't done much. But no President does







He can't build the wall personally. But he is unrelentingly pursuing it. He is unrelentingly pursuing a secured border and stopping illegal entrants. In the face of screaming opposition. First president to do so in my lifetime.

He is taking on all of our trading partners with regard to imbalances, theft of intellectual property, off-shoring American jobs. Also, in the face of screaming opposition. Oddly, by many of the people who might benefit.

He is unrelentingly appointing conservative judges. That's a big deal.

He pursues infrastructure spending but cant pass it himself and gets blocked for a multitude of reasons. The one silver lining to that dark cloud is that the US does not have the huge money that is being talked about for that purpose.

And I disagree with your first point. Life is better.
Obama installed a lot of regs on people and business. HRC would have removed none and added more. Obama had fed taxes up high. HRC would have left them there. Tax reductions clearly stimulate economic activity. Things are much more optimistic economically than they would have been under HRC.

And her presidency would have been every bit the vitriolic circus that Trump's is.

But that's where I part with Trump fwiw...I think that he overshot on roll backs. The financiers in this country proved during the S&L collapse and the mortgage bust that when govt let's go of their reins, they will run the economy into the ground every time. I think that Trump rolled back too much on the bankers. And he did so with a 20tril debt (headed for 30tril) that no one talks about anymore now that the repubs are in. The repubs used to beat that drum to death under Obama. Trump could be setting up the big and total collapse that was avoided during the early Obama years. I hope not. I will be terribly old if everything falls to pieces.

The gist...Trump is far from perfect, but still the best choice that many of us have.


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