Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Yeah, we also took the land from people who were here first.

Nobody is talking about Illegals, we're talking about saying certain groups are not allowed in....legally.

A Third World War is more likely to happen if we push people around and get enough people pissed at us.

Don't forget the pilgrims were English, immigrants.



FD

Legal immigration is fine within reasonable limits.

The country is built out though, from sea to shining sea.
The transcontinental railroad is done.
The Interstate highway system in done.
We have highly populated cities on all coasts and the interior.

I am not an immigrant. I am a citizen. My ancestors were immigrants, not me.

There was a time when immigrants came to the US knowing that there were no handouts. They would have to make their way. Now they get schooled in how to tap the welfare and disability money before they come. They are expensive. We are in debt badly. That is not a non-issue. We can't afford them. I also read that illegals are 21 percent of the federal prison system. That's is absurd if true.

And..yes the Romans were brutal masters. The people who sacked them (Visigoths) were more brutal at a time when the Roman aristocracy had become acquiescent and lost the will and ability to defend Rome. A lesson is there. And nothing lasts forever.

sidenote
I think that the "empire" (as in emperors) only lasted about 500 years.

Not sure.

martin