Oh, for Chrissakes..

Mikes position is not only correct, but inarguable, if just by the weight of agreement.

You will not find a music professor, or any member of the academia who will disagree with the premise Mike puts forth.

If you don't get it....read a freakin' book !

Let's make it simple....think one of anything...one note on a clarinet..one strike of a drum....whatever...

Now...describe it...you will use those four elements...that's all...

Jeez !

Let's discuss whether or not it's morning when the sun comes up !

Bob Young