Wow, nice thought provoking thread!! Music possibilities become damn near infinite by the time you get to 20 notes with option of pitch, instruments, rests, timing, etc...

John S..1/sideways 8=0 is an approximation. Damn near close to zero, but its still SOMETHING (just not much)

John D....I always thing of those troubling spirals as curves. You always intend to leave something (situation, home town, etc..) in a straight line. But always come back at some point. I guess it would be considered an orbit.