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I think she is going the wrong direction in the long run BUT what the heck to I know. I think she went from Very Good Singer Songwriter to Just being one of the Girls in POP....all trying to outdo the other....I think she went of the rails a bit....BUT IS very successful and rich....IF that's all she wants....she got it.


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Barry she already has the money.She's young so why not,better than sittin' on a stool singin' a song.She's got the world by the gagoona's!

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I guess you're right but watching that video and listening to that inane song with the Rapper Actually made me SAD....lol

Weird I know but it looks like she is NOW prancing around and in love with herself.....The Entire Super Woman Thing seems stupid to me and she looked ridiculous doing it.

I feel that she will be nothing but a memory in 10 years BUT a rich one....

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Kind of like when Brittney Spears and Miley Cirus broke away from what people were used to them doing.Or when David Bowie went from Ziggy Stardust to The Thin White Duke,what the hell?I've been waiting for her to make a move from the country scene which i never thought she belonged anyway.

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It's just a rip off of movies. Furious 7 & Hunger Games and some others. It'll probably win some video awards because it's Taylor Swift but is it unique and compelling? Not really.

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She is dominant -- She is willing to change -- She gets it -- She is the smartest person in the world --


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I was always told if you can't say something good, say nothing at all, but I can't resist. I thought I was watching a violent movie, which reflects the world today, but it sells. I guess she is following a lot of stars, trying to conquer other music genres, not because she needs the money, but to prove she can do it. She may lose a few fans but she will pick up a few more. I was never a fan of her music, but she was a wholesome model for younger girls, but now she is following in the footsteps of Miley and Brittney and others that are not pure any more. Much wants more, the way of the world.

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This has got to be the most inane song and music video I have EVER heard/seen! OMG, I have so many negative things to say I don't know where to start.

Really? When Aerosmith crossed over a bit into rap on Walk This Way with DMC, at least it was well done even if you didn't like it. This just sucks ...


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It IS really hard to know where to begin. SHE LOOKS Ridiculous with her frame etc....in a role of a super woman....She is just going for shock and glitz when she doesn't have to BUT for some reason she feels she has to. The problem is WHAT do you have to do to up the anti.....It is Horrid and really Sad....and she will find out in a few years that this is Folly but she doesn't see it right now. Too interested in her selfies and twitter fans and has forgotten what made here were here great songs. She is making a huge mistake in the Long Run...but for now I guess it's ok.

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All that really matters is that her fan base likes it and they all love it.

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She lost me the minute the rap started. But she probably doesn't care! (I did actually pay to download one of her previous albums).


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Originally Posted by Tom Shea
She is dominant -- She is willing to change -- She gets it -- She is the smartest person in the world --


She is also 6 inches taller than me. I hate her for that!

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Wear high heels.lol

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She does not care about who does not like her ----- She cares about who does


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She is dominant.


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The reason that Taylor continues to dominate the marketplace AND continue to keep her fan base is her connection to her fans. you can see it in how she does her daily life, her continuous relationship with her fans which are her and VERY GENUINE. She does more for charity than most people "behind the scenes, not seeking publicity" than most ten Hollywood actors or big music stars combined.

But she looks at songs and videos as A MOVIE ROLE. It is a part. She does it, does it well, expands her fan base (MAXIUMS HOTTEST WOMAN) and touches on all entertainment.

If you pay attention you see how she does this. She does something big bold and controversial, (yet this video is no more controversial than the latest Big Budget Avengers film,which is what this is, a kid getting to play Superhero) she does it all first rate and quality and pretty much captures millions of new people with each move.

Then she will counter act any bad publicity with a "Shake it off", "Why you Gotta Be So Mean" type song which skewers the critics of whatever she has done. She NEVER loses a sense of who she is.

That is why what she does continually works. If you don't like it, as usual you don'[t have to watch or listen to it, but I would be willing to make a bet, you are going to see her follow it up with something that goes in a 100% different direction. And she will get MORE fans.

This girl is a phenomenon and everyone might as well get used to her being around. She is just 22 and is going to be around for a while. In the end, look for her to OWN a major music studio or be the head of a company like SONY. That is where she is headed and what she is capable of. You may be looking at the one who CONTROLS the music industry before it is all over with.

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i liked everything you said except your last sentence MAB.I don't think ONE person should CONTROL the music we write,play and hear.No matter who the hell they are.

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When I first watched this, I tried to pretend that this wasn’t Taylor Swift … that a bunch of unknown singers were performing.

From that perspective, I thought it was a notch above medicare. It was mildly entertaining. It sort of had a James Bond kind of feel to it, but very inferior to that. The bottom line is that Taylor Swift doesn’t have the gritty personality to pull this off. Or, if she does, it wasn’t brought out in this video. Her attempt was making me cringe.

It kind of reminds me of two recent swimsuit covers. Hannah Davis on the cover of Sports Illustrated, in her bikini, pulled off sexy beautifully. Kendall Jenner on the cover of GQ, in her bikini .. not so much. They’re both beautiful women, but Kendall just doesn’t have the “oomph” to make it work. She looks awkward and uncomfortable.

That’s how I felt with Taylor Swift in the video … she’s an amazing young woman, but this video didn't showcase that. I’m not a fan of Madonna, but she could have pulled this video off beautifully.

Next, I watched the video from the perspective of this being made by the most powerful woman in the music industry today.

I thought … WOW, with all of Taylor Swift’s money and power, if she had wanted to do something like this, she should have totally knocked it out of the park! But, it would have to have been tailor-made for her (no pun intended). It seems that no one took her personality into account when this video was produced. I understand that she's in control of everything, but I felt like someone else took control of this and placed her in it, as an after thought.

The fact that Taylor didn’t knock it out of the park is completely puzzling.

While I was watching this, I couldn’t help but think of the decline of Miley Cyrus. The decline started small for her, but once she lost her way … she plummeted into the depths.

So, as someone who likes Taylor Swift … I watch this and think that maybe she just made an error in judgement in putting out a medicare video that doesn’t suit her at all … and I hope it’s not a sign that she’s following the Miley Cyrus model.

Taylor Swift should take a step back and follow Shakespeare’s advice … “to thine own self be true.” I think it is what has gotten her this far, and it would be a shame to see her lose her way.

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Micheal,

I was being somewhat facetious. There IS NO ONE PERSON that controls the music industry or entertainment industry. There are a BUNCH of competing factors. It is always one of those humorous myths that people think about behind the scenes in the music industry.

But there is always driving force. someone who sets the tone and everyone else follows behind. That is Taylor. I've seen it twice here. Garth Brooks and Taylor Swift. Like Micheal Jordan in basketball, they reset the bar as how what they do is viewed. The culture bends to what they are doing, they become the gold standard by which all else are measured.

Lisa, why I don't think anyone has anything to worry about is because there were very different upbringings. Miley and most of the other trainwrecks were raised in LA. Very different up bringing. Taylor continues to stay close to her roots. Even in her various "ManScapades' she always has come out on top and gained elements of her career in each one. So I doubt you will see that implosion.

And again, even if you didn't think she hit it out of the park, I tend to dissagree. This was a music video. Everyone is trying to compare it to a major motion picture, which it isn't. But again, I'm willing to bet you see a corresponding video and music push in the future which does the exact opposite. But watch others for a while try to emulate what she has done. Gets pretty funny actually.

She sets the tone by doing the unexpected. No one can predict what she is going to do. That is why it gets so much attention. And the NORMAL THING in younger people's lives is to self destruct, usually very publicly.

That is exactly why I DON'T think she will do it.

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oh,okay Marc,ya had me getting riled up over here.As far as her video,most all videos seem to be mini movies now.Kinda loses what it's about to me,,,the song.

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I agree Marc....I was just giving my opinion on OVER doing it.
She is Beautiful and a Marketing Genius. What she does is HER Business but I just feel that After awhile of this over the top trying to do something spectacular will fizzle out and maybe you are correct and we'll see her sitting on a stool in a coffee shop singing some of her great songs. Kudos to her for what she is doing and it's all subjective....plus an interesting conversation. I think Beyoncé could have gone in a different direction but when BIG TIME in the Spectacular...so did Mariah. I think they both went in a direction that I wouldn't have advised them but I can't figure out HOW to advise myself to find the damn kitchen.....lol
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Micheal,

That's because they're actually two different entities. Since the 90's Videos have taken on a role of their own in an artist's career. Where they used to be a method to showcase the song, follow the action in that, now they are art forms on their own. Which is why they cost so much.

Back when Micheal Jackson brought in a major Hollywood director, John Landis, to direct THRILLER, it really changed the face of music videos and now many movie directors get their start or increase their viablity by doing directors. Just like at one time, it was taboo for a MOVIE STAR to be involved with TELEVISION, music videos were once considered looked down upon by the "legitimate' movie industry.Now they are nearly as big. And a lot of budgets are involved. This was a HUGE BUDGET video. I don't know the cost but probably past the two million dollar mark.

But what will happen will give Taylor more of a footing in the motion picture business. You see, that is where I think she is headed. But I really believe you may see her moving BEHIND the scenes. I could see her as a main financier and producer of other artists, director of videos, possibly even directing a movie in the future. She makes very strategic moves behind the scenes and most everything has been set up well in advance.

And she stays in touch with her inner child. And I really believe that is what this is. Every kid loves to dress up in the super hero costume, tie a towel around their neck and fly through the house.

Over the past few years, the "Tom Cruise/Marvel super hero' big budget spectacle Summer movies have ruled the entertainment kingdom. And women have been struggling to conquer a slice of that marketplace, Angelina Jolie, being one of the only ones to break into it.

So I believe that is a lot of what is behind this. It is a 'woman's superhero, woman empowerment" video. Just another way to have a woman kicking some butt. I think it is part of something bigger in her overall plans.

That is why I consider these kinds of things just a "movie role" to her.She thinks in multi level stragagies and while everyone else is struggeling to figure out how to react to the "next big thing",she is planning to be it.

A big deal for younger artists are how to they transition to being "grown up?" Most end up like Miley Cyrus, Christine Agulara, and Brittany Spears and have a public meltdown in order to "shock people" into seeing them grow up.

She has not done that. She does things like "22" and lets her fans grow with her. And adds more fans. This, along with the Maxim designation, doing Victoria Secret fashion events, and the Hollywood parties, shows, Awards shows, Billboard awards, etc are all ways to let people she is growing up, yet not doing it like "Twerking her way into people's homes with her tongue all over the place."

She is saying "look at me" without sticking a tongue in your ear. And I really believe it is all part of a larger, more strategic business move.

That's my opinion. (Helps to get a little "inside info' from people involved with her also.)

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I think you are correct on Every Point....SHE is a little out of her element and control and has to be careful as a lot of blazing stars poop out. What she did so well is being forgotten ( her great songwriting to a targeted audience ) and NOW trying to be Miss Powerful Woman killing the bad guys looks strange and ridiculous. She is going down the wrong path and I think Marc has it wrong on THAT part. Maybe a Business Woman etc....but she should stick to what she does Really Well and not delve into what she does pretty well. Don't forget this is just interesting conversation and I am in NO WAY saying I'm correct about any of this....JUST My opinion based on being on the planet a long time and a lot o experience in life.

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well like most red blooded guys,i like to watch hot chicks prance around in super hero outfits but i'm too busy watching them than caring about the song that is no more than a backdrop for the video.I'll admit some of these videos are good and actually mix well with the song while many have no relation to the song what so ever.I know for sure she is going to be in movies,she's too popular not to be.

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What I see is one fantastic songwriter, who relates to her fans, who is knowledgeable of the industry as a whole, and does what she does, not as a matter of "oh look at me" ( she's way above that ) and simply combines both her talent and her business perspective in a rational form.

To me, I'm seeing another Dolly Parton, or another Oprah, where the artist controls her own destiny, and has both the talent, and the guts to make her own way, way above the idiots that would like to take a slice of the action.

Good luck to her.

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Barry, there is always a chance you could be right and I could be very wrong. I'll always give people that. We have to see. But while I always seem to come on here as the "Nashville public defender" or defending Taylor Swift, or today's music, I am really not. I am not involved with all of that, just trying to present a little different opinions. And that is what they are. Opinions.
But my opinions are usually based on people I know who actually work with her, have had a hand in developing her career and who have related things to me that I feel are really the truth.
Allow me to kind of outline how WE in this town have seen this develop.

She got her deal at fourteen years old at Sony. She actually had been writing songs from age 12 and had pretty much been totally dedicated to that from then. When other kids were focusing on being popular, playing and other things, she was concentrating on writing and learning what she was doing.

When she came to Nashville she was a VERY CUTE kid, just like so many, but she impressed everyone she came around. She was respectful and always listened and absorbed everything around her. She worked with a lot of people as we all do. Everyone thinks their kid is going to be huge. A lot of us,(yours truly being one) blew her off or simply dismissed it as another kid wanna be.

She got into everything by writing (and yes it was mostly her) songs that were different than all the other pre-teen things people did. They had a different view point and were well written. She had help along the way but most of it was her. She always had vision for everything she did. She always was one step ahead of everyone. From building a company around her to all the moves she and her associates made.

She connected with her fans via social networking better than anyone did and everyone PAID for her stuff when they were illegally downloading everyone else's. She became a headliner very quickly and was doing enormous business. She crossed that elusive 'CROSSOVER" market from country to pop. She was made the teen idol and expanded the demographic of the industry from 18-40 , 70% female to 12 to 65, 70% female.

She won every award from people that are VERY SLOW TO ACCEPT ANYONE, MUCH LESS YOUNG PEOPLE. And while she had her detractors (Taylor haters) she actually USED that to disarm her critics. That is songs like "SHAKE IT OFF" and "WHY YOU GOTTA BE SO MEAN"

So every roadblock that comes her way, she is able to turn it to her advantage. Usually when kid stars grow they are discared for the "next big thing" but she hasn't been. She has grown with her audience,and vice versa.

She expanded into pop, social circles, Hollywood, New York, Europe, and beyond and has become a force there WITHOUT losing what she has already built on. She strategically plans all that but her personality and WHO SHE IS keeps her centered through everything. The pressure on her from all sides would kill most people but she just keeps keeping on.

So that is why I feel she will just keep on moving. She also DIVERSIFIES as she goes so her interests exceed music alone. That is the reason for early moves into film and other entities. Her moves to licence phrases and other properties again show this.
And she continues to WRITE VERY WELL.

Now if all this seems like I'm 'gushing over Taylor' in some ways I am, but more in admiration and having to work with people who are measured by her bar. i have a lot of respect for her and all who work with her.

Do I like everything? God No. I'm not her target market. I feel a little about the video and current path like much of you. Not my cup of tea. But I do think it is well done and achieves the purpose she is going for, which is a movie role and continuing woman empowerment.

I think we can all learn something and should pay attention. That kid can teach us all old dogs a few new tricks.

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Hey Marc,
I TOO am a Big Taylor Fan and want her to continue to succeed AND GROW....lol She is kind of tall already...lol

I have a Question for YOU. IF you were her Manager and Friend and saw that video and the Inane song WHAT Advice would you give her OR is she unable to receive suggestions like that. Just wondering as I've seen this before and SOME not all OVER reach and do things that they are NOT that great at and forget what brought them to the dance. SO that's all I'm saying. I see an out of control derailing LONG TERM maybe not today......Just my thoughts and I'm FOR HER.

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Barry,

Some of my information comes FROM her management team. First of all, she does listen to everyone. Actually VERY CLOSELY. But she makes all the final decisions. Secondly it is her connection TO THE PEOPLE that brought her here is amazing. To hear Liz Rose talk about the gifts and personal calls she has gotten from Taylor on her success with the song "Girl Crush' is really cool. And her ongoing support of her Mother through the breast cancer situation is amazing.

Again, if I were her manager, I would listen to HER. She is the one who has the proven track record. And she is the one closer to her target audience both in age and mentality than I would be.

There is always the chance she could run off the rails. Actors take bad movie roles. Artists cut things that are not great. But if they have a really good base, they can usually recover from missteps. Ever heard of Robert Downey Jr? From train wreck to the highest paid actor in the world is a pretty interesting career path.

I feel that way about Taylor. And I just don't see it as that negative a career move. As I said, the video here is no different than the big movies out there. In fact all it does is emulate the big budget Hollywood blockbuster movie trailer. Put it next to the trailer for the AVENGERS, JURASSIC WORLD and the upcoming STAR WARS movie. Because that is what it is. It is really more of a PARODY of those big budget movies.

And that is another thing people need to remember about Taylor. She views things with a great deal of HUMOR. I think this is intended a little more tongue in cheek than we are viewing it. I don't think it is meant to be seen as seriously as some people are viewing it. I doubt very much you are going to see her walking down the street in one of those outfits in the video. She will be back to t-shirts and jeans before you know it.

You can't look at anything that she does in an isolated viewpoint.There are always OTHER things she is doing, that they are a part of. This is really part of several things.

A move to New York to present a more cosmopolitan presence. (If you can make it there....you make it anywhere...)

A move to more Hollywood roles and a way to move beyond teen idol.

A bit of a showcase of acting chops.

An appeal to her main fan base who go for all these movies.

A subtle change in her musical styling. Most people here would tell you she has ALWAYS BEEN POP.

An overseas marketing move. They are huge on Hollywood spectacle.
I would expect a HUGE overseas tour and public presence.
Wait till you see her on the red carpet at the Caan film festival, Venice and all that stuff as well as moving into the Hollywood film community that already love her.

So I think that is what is happening. I don't believe it is isolated and I don't think it is wrong at all. But above all, until she falls apart, I would go with the smartest one in the room.

To me, that is her.

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I think I have seen Video's for sale in Music Stores. Do they still sell artist Video's if they ever did?


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Ray,

Not that much. First of all, there are not many music stores anymore. Target,Walmart and Best Buy are about it as far as retail goes and their space is very limited on product. Second of all, they were always intended to be promotional for the album, star and product. So they were never really intended to be for sale.

Some, that did a lot of videos might offer them as a collection, but more than not they were as part of the CD set. Garth Brooks included all his videos and records in one giant package. He is the best about selling the same product over and over again, but in different packaging. It's how you sell 100 MILLION records in a decade.
Shania and some of the hotties would sell it as collections, but most often through their own web sites and social media.

But the biggest impediment to sales of them is YOU TUBE. Everything is availible through that for free, so like everything, why pay for it if you get it for free.

From the beginning of the music television age, with MTV, videos were always a giveaway, we are not even paid for plays on a video. It is always considered promotion. They can be very expensive and now you have to consider video as part of any promotion of any song you have. So you writers need to be doing some story boarding as well as getting the recording done. It is all involved now.

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Just to note Marc..she is 25...not 22. wink

I am a fan, seeing her again in October . .great show she puts on! Never seen anything like the Red tour and I am sure the 1989 will be just as good.
I was not crazy about her Bad Blood video, especially adding the rap..I like her songs and videos with more message or story.

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I was actually referring to the song "22." But when you look at artists, you kind of consider their target market is three to six years, most of the time a year or two younger than they are, and a year or two older than they are. So "22" is the target market for that particular record.

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Thanks Marc....you're probably correct here.

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Who knows? Always an interesting thing to watch.

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Max Martin & his team are gonna turn Taylor into an international pop icon. She'll be a pop legend before they get done with her like the other people they made. Backstreet Boys, Nsync, Britney Spears, Katy Perry, Pink. All of those artists would have been nowhere without him. I'm not worried about Taylor. She belongs to the world now.

I'm not knocking Taylors team either and they helped get her to the top of the country world, that's as far as they could have got her though. She's gonna dominate the world now. Already started.

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There ya go

Taylor Swift’s “Bad Blood” garnered 20.1 million views in just 24 hours, setting a new Vevo record.

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Good for HER.....We can have an interesting conversation about HER and all music and that's GOOD.....Keeps our Minds Sharp. I loved most of Taylor has done but this bigger than life trying to one up Katy Perry style she has taken on IN MY OPINION is watering down what she does best and that's writing and singing her songs. I don't care if she makes a billion and gets a billion new fans it's just how I FEEL but that's ok....opinions are just that they are OURS and we can just turn the channel....lol

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One more thought.....For ME getting huge audiences for over the top videos etc.....doesn't change my mind....it's NOT All about views. In this crazy world idiots doing idiotic thinks on youtube get huge hits....so that's not the greatest criteria BUT IT is good for Business.

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Originally Posted by Marc Barnette
The reason that Taylor continues to dominate the marketplace AND continue to keep her fan base is her connection to her fans. you can see it in how she does her daily life, her continuous relationship with her fans which are her and VERY GENUINE. She does more for charity than most people "behind the scenes, not seeking publicity" than most ten Hollywood actors or big music stars combined.

But she looks at songs and videos as A MOVIE ROLE. It is a part. She does it, does it well, expands her fan base (MAXIUMS HOTTEST WOMAN) and touches on all entertainment.

If you pay attention you see how she does this. She does something big bold and controversial, (yet this video is no more controversial than the latest Big Budget Avengers film,which is what this is, a kid getting to play Superhero) she does it all first rate and quality and pretty much captures millions of new people with each move.

Then she will counter act any bad publicity with a "Shake it off", "Why you Gotta Be So Mean" type song which skewers the critics of whatever she has done. She NEVER loses a sense of who she is.

That is why what she does continually works. If you don't like it, as usual you don'[t have to watch or listen to it, but I would be willing to make a bet, you are going to see her follow it up with something that goes in a 100% different direction. And she will get MORE fans.

This girl is a phenomenon and everyone might as well get used to her being around. She is just 22 and is going to be around for a while. In the end, look for her to OWN a major music studio or be the head of a company like SONY. That is where she is headed and what she is capable of. You may be looking at the one who CONTROLS the music industry before it is all over with.

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marc, this is the post I was referring to, you said she is just 22..you were not referring to the song 22 or demographic in post I responded to. Kim


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Marc hit this right on ----



[quote=KimberlyinNC][quote=Marc Barnette]The reason that Taylor continues to dominate the marketplace AND continue to keep her fan base is her connection to her fans. you can see it in how she does her daily life, her continuous relationship with her fans which are her and VERY GENUINE. She does more for charity than most people "behind the scenes, not seeking publicity" than most ten Hollywood actors or big music stars combined.

But she looks at songs and videos as A MOVIE ROLE. It is a part. She does it, does it well, expands her fan base (MAXIUMS HOTTEST WOMAN) and touches on all entertainment.

If you pay attention you see how she does this. She does something big bold and controversial, (yet this video is no more controversial than the latest Big Budget Avengers film,which is what this is, a kid getting to play Superhero) she does it all first rate and quality and pretty much captures millions of new people with each move.

Then she will counter act any bad publicity with a "Shake it off", "Why you Gotta Be So Mean" type song which skewers the critics of whatever she has done. She NEVER loses a sense of who she is.

That is why what she does continually works. If you don't like it, as usual you don'[t have to watch or listen to it, but I would be willing to make a bet, you are going to see her follow it up with something that goes in a 100% different direction. And she will get MORE fans.

This girl is a phenomenon and everyone might as well get used to her being around. She is just 22 and is going to be around for a while. In the end, look for her to OWN a major music studio or be the head of a company like SONY. That is where she is headed and what she is capable of. You may be looking at the one who CONTROLS the music industry before it is all over with.


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She is the smartest person in the world


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Kim,

I am often doing up to three or four posts on different web sites simultaneously. It is about half of what I do, giving advice and perspective for free on web sites. It is my desire to help writers in as much as I can and for every hour I spend writing, performing, recording, teaching, etc that I am paid for, I am doing 16 hours of reaching out, reading forums, giving perspective built on what I get from the industry people I know.

I will sometimes miss a reference, might get two things confused. It happens. The larger point of Taylor Swift is watching the moves that she makes and see them as part of a larger picture.

People trying to be in this industry, often see things from too myopic a point of view. Songwriters only look at the technical points of a song, and often don't think about the bigger picture, how would an artist interpret this song, what other similar songs are their out there, how would the video work on this, how would an artist get funding for their career, how would this work in an overall recording or set, who is the target audience for this, and about ten million other questions that if you don't ask, your competition is. And that is what this is if you want to do anything past write songs for your own self, which is fine.

What I am referring to with Taylor are the things she has done since she started, why they have worked, the progressions she has made, and where I think she is going and WHY I believe they have worked.

Many get worked up about something like this video and think she is going down the road of evil like so many others. I don't. I think it is part of a strategic bigger picture that she has done ever since she started. So if I get a date, age, or something wrong, it is more because I am focused on a bigger picture.

I am talking about her age, which was 22 a while ago, her song, her market share, her fans, her management, and her strategic movements. So they ALL tie in.

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I agree Marc....Her too biggest strengths are catchy songs and her Marketing Skills AND of course her looks.

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I just watched the video and I liked it. It's different from what she normally does which is what catches your attention. Just shows she can pull off just about anything. And she looks hot in red hair too! smile


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Originally Posted by Marc Barnette
Kim,

I am often doing up to three or four posts on different web sites simultaneously. It is about half of what I do, giving advice and perspective for free on web sites. It is my desire to help writers in as much as I can and for every hour I spend writing, performing, recording, teaching, etc that I am paid for, I am doing 16 hours of reaching out, reading forums, giving perspective built on what I get from the industry people I know.

I will sometimes miss a reference, might get two things confused. It happens. The larger point of Taylor Swift is watching the moves that she makes and see them as part of a larger picture.

People trying to be in this industry, often see things from too myopic a point of view. Songwriters only look at the technical points of a song, and often don't think about the bigger picture, how would an artist interpret this song, what other similar songs are their out there, how would the video work on this, how would an artist get funding for their career, how would this work in an overall recording or set, who is the target audience for this, and about ten million other questions that if you don't ask, your competition is. And that is what this is if you want to do anything past write songs for your own self, which is fine.

What I am referring to with Taylor are the things she has done since she started, why they have worked, the progressions she has made, and where I think she is going and WHY I believe they have worked.

Many get worked up about something like this video and think she is going down the road of evil like so many others. I don't. I think it is part of a strategic bigger picture that she has done ever since she started. So if I get a date, age, or something wrong, it is more because I am focused on a bigger picture.

I am talking about her age, which was 22 a while ago, her song, her market share, her fans, her management, and her strategic movements. So they ALL tie in.

MAB

Marc, it was no dig towards you, but as a big fan of Taylor's , when you said she was 22, I just corrected you. Then you acted like I was wrong in what I read, so I pointed out where you did say it, that I was not mistaken in what I read.

Is it a big deal that you quoted her age wrong? NO! I just wanted to note she is the beautiful age of 25 now..and so accomplished at such a young age.

I was not slighting you at all, but you seem to have taken it that way. Next time maybe I should not let incorrect info cause me to speak up. Not worth getting anyone peeved over it or explaining all the reasons I should not have spoke up because of long hours helping out others in forums, yes you do help with your well thought out posts, I learn from them, enjoy them and I am glad you are speaking up for Taylor on this post.

There was no need to feel aggravated with me for pointing our one small mistake..we all make um..:) a simple yeah, you are right, Kim, my bad, would have been fine wink Kim


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She is the smartest person in the world


Quite a statement. Maybe we should get her involved in world affairs and solve some of our problems.LOL

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First TS was born December 13, 1989 so she's 25.

On Bad Blood, Great for Taylor, when I first heard Bad Blood on the radio I honestly wasn't that impressed, though when I first saw the video I was. The video looks like a Quentin Tarantino Kill Bill movie. It was amazing how many stars appeared in it.

Bad Blood: who's who in Taylor Swift's new video
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...lor-Swift-bad-blood-video-instagram.html


Taylor Swift's explosive 'Bad Blood' video smashed Vevo's world record for most views in one day (20.1 million views in 1 day)
http://www.usatoday.com/videos/life/music/2015/05/22/27772803/

Taylor did it again. An artists power comes from having one hit after the other. That is what TS has done and keeps doing.

Many country artists wish they could cross over and become pop artists. Pop / top 40 is a bigger format, more stations and more money. Name one country who besides TS who has successfully crossed over into pop as opposed to have a country chart that winds up on the pop charts. Garth Brooks alias Chris Gaines was a total flop.

Taylor's brilliance comes from:

1) crafting songs that her fans love, ones they totally relate to, that touches on issues they face.

2) being a marketing genius and thriving while winning the publicity game, one radio person said she's got this crazy charisma she hadn't seen since Garth. Many radio people told me she follows up meetings with hand written thank you notes.

3) gaining the approval of parents who purchase CDs, downloads and concert tickets for their children. She creates products and music they approve of and maintained a good reputation, so far she hasn't self destructed.

"During a Rolling Stones interview, Tay was asked about the identity of the person in the song, “Bad Blood.” She responded by saying, “We’re just straight-up enemies.” She also noted that this “mystery person” tried to sabotage her arena tour. Last year, three of Taylor’s dancers left mid tour to work for Katy Perry. It isn’t hard to connect the dots and figure out who this song is about!

However, Katy is reportedly aware of the song! Taylor said this mean girl “wasn’t nice to her” and “she would insult her in private, then publicly say ‘I love you.'”
http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/09/17/taylor-swift-disses-katy-perry-bad-blood/

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TS did it again. She is a force. Great for her. You go girl!


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I like Katy Perry but damn she doesn't stand a chance in a fued against TSwfit.
TSwift has too many fans. Katy Perrys fans aren't that rabid.

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