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Trump demonized Mexican immigrants as out of control mindless killers in his latest campaign speech yesterday-saying they are a ongoing and imminent threat to the lives of the American people......He did not mention our own home grown psychopaths who have in fact done much worse-one of whom was in fact not only one of America's worst serial killers-but a REPUBLICAN who worked for the Republican campaign as he did things like drive the Republican Governor around on the campaign trail.....TED BUNDY brutally raped-strangled-and dismembered at least 38 young women in his years long rampage in the Northwest and Florida before his capture and execution....There are indeed bad people in EVERY country....For Trump to demonize Mexican/Muslim/etc etc. as evil is just part of his evil psychopathic xenophobic mental illness..Yet too many Republicans leaders are just remaining silent-including my own Congressman-Republican Congressman Bob Goodlatte of the 6th Congressional District in Virginia......I

Possibly THE most bizarre non-sequiter I've ever seen posted here.

SO was Abe Lincoln...

Trump wouldn't be where he is right now without his supporters. Any person who supports Trump after all he has said is as evil as him.

Yes, So what. So was John Wayne.
What the hell does that have to do with the Price of Tea in China.

You tryin' to say something Yeager?
Oh, there was a democrat activist who used to say, never take any cheap shots because you might have to eat those words.
But on the bright side, your intelligence is showing thru.

You have to be a certain age to even remember the name Ted Bundy.

Does this mean that all republicans are like Ted Bundy? Or just the men? Are the women republicans like Lizzie Borden?

Oh COME ON! You don't EVEN WANT TO GO THRERE! Let;s take a look at Democrat Assasins:

John Wilkes Booth, Southern Racist and DEMOCRAT
The KKK was a DEMOCRAT ORGANIZATION

DEMOCRATS VOTED AGAINST CIVIL RIGHTS. Was passed by Republicans.

Lee Harvey Oswald, Communist sympathizer, same beliefs on communisim as Barak Obama.

SIRHAN SIRHAN - Palestinian sympathizer, same as Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton.

James Earl Ray

John Hinkley

Mark David Chapman (did volunteer work for Democrats in Hawaii.)

MOST assasains lean left and fit profiles. Periniel malcontents,
never satisfied, over whelming sense of self worth, and always coming up short in everything they do.

A little historical perspective would help your arguments.

MAB

Marc,

Please try and keep reason out of these discussions.

Well good to see all my Republican friends in JPF-I figured that would wake you up-I was feeling rather lonely and neglected...

NEITHER PARTY can claim ideological purity of course.....However I am very proud to say that the Democratic Party strongly supports gun control...I loathe Hillary Clinton for lots of good reasons-but-grandiose self promoting liar that she is (just like Trump) she is strongly in favor of gun control and has been endorsed by MOMS DEMAND ACTION-a BI-PARTISAN group of women formed after the Sandy Hook Massacre who have literally put their lives on the line in support of gun control.....I dont want to see either or any candidate for public office shot and killed...Sprout eating pacifist that I am-I dont want to see anyone get shot or killed..Trump is going to have us at war with Mexico somehow....Are you guys going to join the military then? Given that alot of you had or have various excuses for not joining it in your youth?

“Trump demonized Mexican immigrants as out of control mindless killers in his latest campaign speech yesterday-saying they are a ongoing and imminent threat to the lives of the American people...”



http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/15/121-murders-attributed-illegal-immigrants-released/


http://www.breitbart.com/big-journa...s-for-over-30-of-murders-in-some-states/




“... is just part of his evil psychopathic xenophobic mental illness....”


Practicing psychotherapy now, are we?

No not me DB

Just watching REAL PSYCHIATRISTS get extremely alarmed about Donald Trump.....

Tom

No comment on the "immigrants" in the links I posted? They're obviously just coming here for a better life, right?

When you start posting articles from sources other than the washington times (Sun Myung Moon and Unification Church) and Brietbart (the white nationalism rag) maybe some folks might actually read them.

This link isn't credible?


http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp


You can cherry-pick your sources, but not your facts.


"Brietbart (the white nationalism rag)"


What color is the sky in your world, Kevin?

Maybe Kate Steinle's father is lying too, eh?


http://www.fairus.org/issue/examples-of-serious-crimes-of-illegal-aliens

Or maybe these victims are lying too?


http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims_2.html

No, it's not. It's mission is to only provide one side of story. Try being fair and balanced, you might end up liking it.

No, it's 'mission' is to memorialize victims of illegal aliens. Don't want to read those horror stories, eh, Kev? Make you uncomfortable?


You cannot refute these facts, so you attack the sources. These are real people. Real victims. Republicans, Democrats, White, Black. In this case, I find your callousness rather despicable.

Donald Trump discusses immigration plan and campaign
http://video.foxnews.com/v/51091137...ration-plan-and-campaign/?#sp=show-clips

You seem to be one of the very few here that constantly attack other people. Why is that? I'll continue to attack your sources when they are purely propaganda sites.

“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy."


"Rules for Radicals"

Saul Alinsky

Well, Um, Yes,
Many of you don't remember Ted Bundy. He was, as I remember a promising young man in the Republican Party. He had mental issues he could not control. If you want more Google him.

Golly why does Yeager continue to remind us of more pressing problems!
Now the real problem is the Know Nothings and Proud of it Group! And there are a lot more of them than us. They are like Fly's in a Cattle Barn. They have given us, well I'll just drop all the adjectives and go right to the 20 Trillion Dollar Federal Debt. And now of course they are trying to give us Hillary! Hey, ain't this fun!

Ray do you remember that reporter who got shot on live tv in Virginia? Alison Parker......She was a James Madison University graduate and if you think I am hard on the NRA and GOP you should see her father-that guy is fully committed to the cause of defeating the GOP for killing gun control every time it comes up in Congress..We are Facebook Friends and I hope/expect to meet him someday.....I will be back at JMU again Saturday morning at 9am registering more students to vote....I dont really give a damn about the National Debt-cause-surprise surprise the rich and super-rich own most of the Treasury Bills anyway........So telling little old me and others like me to worry about what we owe the super-rich-well it aint something that worries me at all obviously.....Fool that I am-I worry about even you getting shot and killed down there in gun crazy Georgia....If and when that should happen the NRA aint gonna miss you at all Ray.....No amount of money will bring back Alison Parker to her dad.......He misses her every day and he is taking on the NRA and their GOP sock puppets as only a father of a victim can.....The best mental health system in the world will always be defeated by the worst gun control system in the world-and the worst gun control system in the world is what America has...Screw the National Debt!......

Tom

Eh, Well,
There is something called the Second Ammendment that you will have to change to get rid of all the guns. Now most people that buy guns are law abiding people and most of their guns are sitting around catching dust most of the time. Plus there are a ton of laws already on the books. Yes there are nut cases that kill innocent people but when you have no job, because of big government programs like Obama Care it defeats the best laid plans and I don't have to read you the riot act. I suppose you can see it for yourself. Maybe not.

FBI releases Hillary Clinton email report
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/02/politics/hillary-clinton-fbi-interview-notes/index.html

Washington (CNN) — Hillary Clinton repeatedly told the FBI she couldn't recall key details and events related to classified information procedures, according to notes the bureau released Friday of its July interview with the Democratic presidential nominee, along with a report on its investigation into her private email server.

Clinton told the FBI she "could not recall any briefing or training by State related to the retention of federal records or handling classified information," according to the bureau's notes of their interview with Clinton. The documents indicate Clinton told investigators she either does not "recall" or "remember" at least 39 times — often in response to questions about process, potential training or the content of specific emails.

Much of the report reiterated what FBI Director James Comey testified in open hearings before Congress, including that more than six dozen email chains contained classified information at the time they were sent and that there appeared to have been hacking attempts on her server, though there is no evidence they were successful. Still, the report added fuel to the criticisms of Clinton and the narrative that her team acted "extremely careless," as Comey said.

GOP nominee Donald Trump and other Republicans have stepped up their attacks connecting the emails to questions over whether Clinton gave preferential treatment to donors to her family's foundation. The release of the documents Friday comes as Clinton's lead over Trump has been cut in half since her post-convention bounce last month, according to CNN's Poll of Polls released Thursday.

The bureau is making the information public in response to numerous Freedom of Information Act requests, including from CNN.

"Today the FBI is releasing a summary of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's July 2, 2016 interview with the FBI concerning allegations that classified information was improperly stored or transmitted on a personal e-mail server she used during her tenure," the agency said in a statement. "We also are releasing a factual summary of the FBI's investigation into this matter."

Sorry, accidentally deleted Ray's comment when I was getting rid of a troll's comments

Censorship is the last resort of cowards.

See that's the way you do it. You've addressed an opinion of yours without calling out anyone here personally (directly). Your other comments just made me think you had turned into a troll and you no longer cared for normal discourse.

So, that's why you arbitrarily deleted my thread this morning?

It can't be arbitrary if I had a reason. Attack someone personally here and I will delete and/or lock threads.

What exactly was the 'reason'? There was no personal attack on anyone in that thread.

Biased "moderation" is not moderate. It is tyranny.


1.
arbitrary or unrestrained exercise of power; despotic abuse of authority.
Synonyms: despotism, absolutism, dictatorship.


http://www.dictionary.com/browse/tyranny

Florida doesnt have ObamaCare Ray....

So there aint no damn affordable health Insurance down there. The Republicans kept it out....

The surviving victims of the Orlando Massacre didnt have ObamaCare or any other damn thing in most cases.....To its great credit-Orlando Regional Medical Center just announced that it will Forgive all the medical bills not covered by any kind of insurance...

Cause otherwise I guess people would be getting shot just to use their ObamaCare Cards-RIGHT RAY?



Tom

Golly Folks,
So Florida doesn't have Obama Care, Eh? Well pretty soon Yeager nobody is going to have Obama Care! The Major Health "Providers" are leaving in droves. Heck folks, I think I have finally made it. I consider my day a total loss until I catch hell from somebody!
Those Cold Hard Facts are a hard thing to stomach eh?

Now things were a lot better before the Liberals started in making things "Better". Well, you gets what you pays for.

Shucks Yeager, tell me the good things about "Obama Care' Let me guess. It must be the ever rising Premiums, no?

Seriously.. need we start mentioning all the people who were Democrats? Like the KKK, all the politicians who discriminated against blacks and refused to pass or support the civil rights act (it was passed by Republicans, not Democrats, and that wasn't long ago). The overwhelming majority of all historical assassins were hard core leftists. I could go on and on about the serial killers and mass shooters who also overwhelming happen to be leftist.

Then, let's look at the countries who have murdered literally 100's of millions of their own people... China and Russia. Russia and the Soviet Union killed far more own citizens than the Nazi's killed in total. All because they were against socialism which turned into hard core state run communism. Marxist all resolves into the same thing, pain and suffering on a mass scale. Cuba anyone? Obama loves them of course... China killed 100's of millions of people who simply disagreed with the hard left turn of their countries. They used "reeducation camps" to coerce change but killed those who didn't want to accept it.

Left wing policies always sound great until they run out of other people's money. Like what is happening here. They want to go to a digital money because they fear Weimar republic type inflation and paying for a loaf of bread with wheel barrows full of cash.

The left never learn from their mistakes. They simply repeat and don't understand why it all leads to tragedy.

Well Ray/Brian

Keep trusting Corporate America if you want but I sure dont.....They have repeatedly shown that they dont give a damn about anybody....

The CEO's and their Boards of Directors laugh at how easy it is to steal for themselves....Exxon gave its CEO a $400 Million Dollar Retirement package-cause the tens or hundreds of millions just wasnt enough money for his service......

Monsanto Board of Directors also approved $400 Million for their CEO.....

These guys sit on each others Boards and take damn good care of each other....

The middle class-whats left of it-gets raped and pillaged....All the money and even in alot of cases the HQ move offshore to places that are beyond the reach of American authorities.....Haliburton moved to I think Bahrain after their looting of taxpayers.....They used to be based/hq ed in Texas.....There are so many shell companies the IRS and even state attorney generals despair about how long it takes to track and trace these expatriate corporate jackrabbits......Google was recently fined $14 Billion Dollars by the European Union for its sweetheart tax evasion deal with Ireland......

I was in Nashville-previous HQ of Bell South when AT&T bought back all the BABY BELLS they had previously been required to unload.....I could see the Bell South HQ Tower from my apartment windows......When AT&T bought back Bell South they put alot of long time BS employees into the street without any feeling or compassion or 2nd thought......Just another day in Corporate America...F' em all-they cant do a damn thing about it...

ObamaCare is strongly opposed by CEO'S and BOD's in the health care industry because they feel entitled to rape and pillage Health Care at will and resent anyone and anything that gets in the way of their white collar criminal activity......Even former Florida Governor Jeb Bush was outraged by how much the taxpayers and state governments were getting robbed-saying and I quote-"We are getting ripped off"

Florida's current Governor-Republican Rick Scott was the previous CEO of Columbia-HCA...Under his reign of terror that corporation stole so much money they were fined a record ONE BILLION DOLLARS by the government for MEDICAIRE FRAUD....He was forced out-asked to leave by the Board of Directors of Columbia-HCA cause even they were embarrassed by the looting.....So having raped and pillaged all he could at that place he took the money and ran....From Nashville (Corporate HQ) to Florida-because evidently the GOP considered him to be leadership material..I guess they admired his white collar criminal skills and wanted him to-you know-fight the government down in Florida cause God forbid a Democrat got elected.....Affordable health care-gun control and other horrors would surely follow.....The gun lickers in Florida (The NRA) have flooded that state with so many guns that the most foaming at the mouth mental cases are getting them.....Cause dont you dare get in the way of a cash register at a gun store.......Thats just so UN-American and anti-business etc etc....After the latest OOPSIE when another mental case got a AR-15 and set a new record for number of people killed and wounded-the costs were of course born by the taxpayers...........Grover Norquist-the Anti-TAX Crusader who also sits on the NRA Board of Directors-was-as usual silent about the cost to taxpayers from the firearms industry...As he was after the Sandy Hook Elementary School Massacre....So now my home state of Virginia has lost the standing of #1 dead victims in a single massacre......VA TECH...I am a DAMN DEMOCRAT and proud of it......People are real and valued by the Democratic Party...The NRA-GOP marrige has been absolutely disgraceful..GOP Politicians have completely foresaken their duties as public safety officials because they feel they must mindlessly obey the dictates of the NRA or see their political graves before them.......That their cowardice is putting real people into real graves is something they will apparently-never-ever admit....Cause They Cant Handle The Truth!

Aw, Yes,
There are scoundrels in all walks of life. And there always will be! but As gently and tenderly as I can Big Business doesn't make money by being in a vacuum. When Big Business is successful they take tons of people with them that are also prosperous. People have jobs.

The best advice I can give each of you is start a savings plan and stick to it. Before all the Big Government Programs that may have lulled too many people to sleep people saved their money for a Rainy Day!

You can sit around and complain that you never had a chance and the cards are stacked against you but It didn't stop Donald Trump, did it? Grow up Yeager. Yes bad things happen and always will. Waiting on the government to save you will only get you one thing. I think Merle Travis wrote a song about it. SIXTEEN TONS.

Now I am a child....Well I believe I grew up at Parris Island when I was 18 Ray....Where did you grow up?.....Im stupid Im childish etc etc etc.Always some kinda personal insult from you....

Tom

Well, Humm, What?
So Yeager, what did you do with the money you had for the books?
You grew up at Parris Island? Marines, no? He, He. My wife's brother was in the Marines. And he ain't no dumbbocrat Yeager. And he is from Conn. I know this is hard to take but his wife hates Hillary to no end. Sorry! Those are the Cold Hard Facts of Life. Now why Yeager, do you want everybody to fund your Lifestyle. Can't you do it yourself. Did you really grow up, did you?

Uh, I've been thru 3 World Wars, Two County Fairs, and a Sheep Shearing Contest. But i digress, the Economy grew at a blistering Pace of 1.1 percent in the second quarter. The Jobs Report was anemic at best last month.
But taking cheap shots will never replace common sense, Eh?

Ray,

Contrary to what Tom says, Florida does, indeed, have Obamacare.

What Florida, and nearly half of all states, did NOT do was expand Medicaid. Many states took the {Obamacare mandated} Medicaid expansion issue to the Supreme Court and won the right to opt out of Medicaid expansion.

Before Obamacare, Medicaid was paid for by states and the federal government.

When Obamacare was passed, it had a "carrot" in it for the states. The federal government said it would pick up the entire Medicaid tab for two or three years, if states expanded their Medicaid qualifications.

Many states were terrified, because there was no guarantee that the federal government would continue to kick in money after the initial two or three years. Then, the states would be left to pick up a huge tab for a huge expansion of Medicaid. It would wreck the state budgets.

The states won that battle in the Supreme Court and were allowed to opt out of the Medicaid expansion.

Lisa

I was obviously wrong when I said Florida didnt have ObamaCare.....I thought they didnt......Thank you for correcting me on that Lisa....That said I think Single Payer/National Health Care-whatever- would be alot better for America than the current hodgepodge of this insurance company and that government program and whatever......It would drive the pirates out of the health care system....Where they never should have been allowed in the first place in my opinion....They will of course find other victims...Regarding Florida again.....Republican Governor Rick Scott required drug testing for people on welfare....That was an enormously expensive program which cost taxpayers million and millions just to find out less than 5% of welfare recipients were even on drugs...Of course Rick Scott owns alot of stock in a drug testing company........
PS...Am still waiting for Ray to tell us where he grew up-cause it obviously made such a real man out of him....Are you saying that YOU yourself are a military veteran-not your relatives or whoever-but YOU.....Please clarify that.


Tom

Tom,

I can completely understand the confusion about Florida and Obamacare, because it IS confusing. Virtually all people who got insurance through Obamacare have done so through Medicaid (which we already had). It wasn't sold that way, but that's the way it worked out.

Had our country just wanted to expand Medicaid, we could have done so without Obamacare and far cheaper and far less complicated ... which would have reduced the confusion.

Regarding a Single Payer/National Healthcare system ... I can also envision a Single Grocery system, a Single Housing system...a Single Car system, etc.

Lisa

Well Lisa

Medical Bills are the leading cause of Personal Bankruptcy in America......Look that up if you dont believe me...Yes I do think National Health Care would be a major improvement over our current system...

Republican President George W. Bush declared bankruptcy when the oil business he was in went under..Even his business partner in it said they 'RAN A DRY HOLE COMPANY'..Seems they couldnt find oil in Jiffy Lube...

So-good Republican that he is-he dumped the debts he owed-walked away from them...Screw em

But he got a $500,000 loan from a uncle-cause everybodys uncle can and will give em a $500,000 loan right? Even when they have declared bankruptcy already....

He took that money and bought an interest in the Texas Rangers-a team that hugged the absolute bottom of the rankings-longer than the NY Mets I believe.....

Then he and his fellow investors in the team got state taxpayers in Texas to finance a brand new baseball stadium for his team....Course they had to use Imminent Domain to bulldoze things like an upper middle class subdivision that was in the way of the newly expanded stadium.....But hey-no problem cause Curtis Mathes obviously didnt have the political clout of the Bush Family even though he used to own a company that you know-made tv sets.....His house got bulldozed along with the rest....

Lo and behold-wrapping a brand new publicly financed stadium around his cellar dwelling baseball team dramatically increased its value(Shock and Surprise).....

So Boy George was able to pay back the loan from his uncle and then proceeded to buy that ranch in Crawford,Texas that he has now.....It was a real working ranch at the time-you know-horses and cattle and all that crazy stuff people kinda associate with the word RANCH in Texas..Well he then got rid of all the horses and cattle-which had alot of people in Texas calling it a 1,500 acre ESTATE -NOT A REAL RANCH...But W. wore a cowboy hat and called it a ranch...So he paid maybe $5 million for that and still had maybe $8 million dollars left....Voila! Self-Made Man-Rugged Individualist and all that other BS he sold to the voters so easily......

So how do you like the idea of Socialized Baseball Lisa? It worked for George W.Bush-worked mighty fine indeed....


Tom

Gosh Lisa!
I like your plan. Single Health payer system, single grocery plan, single car plan, uh, ain't that what all the liberals and Yeager also want. Hell send me a Bill, I will sign it! I don't know who is going to do all the work but ain't it a grand plan?

Gheeze, to answer your question Yeager I grew up is SE Ohio. And yes I was in the Military, I have posted things in the past about my "Vast" military expierences, well not really. Now, for more information, the military knows how to do things right. I got a good education just observing how the military done things.

Gosh I'm sorry George Bush displeases you. According to a relation, on my mother's side I am actually related to the Bushes, also the Spencer's you know Lady Diane. And further more I have a more famous relation, a Col. William Strode who was a member of the House of Commons and one of the Leaders. About 3 of my ancesters were in the House Of commons. Golly and believe it or not, there is a Strode College in the South of England.

Now with all this information, and maybe a 20 dollar bill you can get a good meal at McDonald's!
Sorry Yeager I don't usually brag about myself. There ain't no money in it.

Ray you do practically nothing but brag about yourself.....You hurl personal insults against anyone who disagrees with you in political discussions...They are this-that and whatever..You personally insult and diminish......

You are like Trump......I mean that as a compliment so as to buff your ego enough for you to make it through the day...Cause Trump-Narcissist that he is-has an ego that is insatiable-always on empty- constantly needing and seeking replenishment....Nothing is ever enough....Kinda funny though Ray-you did not mention which branch you were in or how long you served or whether you got an Honorable discharge-you know-GI Bill benefits-stuff like that..I got GI BILL benefits.Were you eligible for them?

Tom

Holy Jiggers!'
Sorry Tom, Harry Truman used to say, I DON'T GIVE EM HELL. I JUST TELL THE TRUTH, THEY THINK IT'S HELL! You remember who Harry Truman was, don't you? Well hang around Yeager, you might learn a thing, or two. Cheap Shots will get you no where.

Ya know Yeager, somebody has to keep the trains running on time, somebody has to fill those grocery shelves, everyday. Somebody has to haul the gasoline to those Gas Stations on a regular basis. Somebody has to keep the electricity flowing with no interruptions.
You like all those benefits but you want somebody else to pay for it. Hillary has no clue how the real world works, she has been in Politics all her life. Too many people can't see past the end of their nose when it comes to the real conditions in the country.

And in which countries that have universal health care also have a signal grocery system/ single housing system/ or single auto insurance system?

Aaron,

The Soviet Union tried all of them. Below is information about how that worked out for them. (Actually, I said "Single Car" -- not "auto insurance," as you asked about. They probably didn't have auto insurance, but I have no idea.)
Anyway...

Universal Grocery Stores in the Soviet Union:
http://www.progressivestoday.com/th...list-paradise-of-the-soviet-union-video/

Universal Healthcare in the Soviet Union:
https://fee.org/resources/socialized-health-care-the-communist-dream-and-the-soviet-reality/

Automobiles in the Soviet Union (also talks about centralized housing):
https://fee.org/resources/socialized-health-care-the-communist-dream-and-the-soviet-reality/

Communal Housing in the Soviet Union:
http://kommunalka.colgate.edu/cfm/essays.cfm?ClipID=376

If you don't like these sources, you simply have to Google for others.

On a work trip, I visited the Soviet Union back in the early 1990s -- it was right after the fall of the Soviet Union, before things had time to change. It was quite an experience .... things we take for granted were in very short supply. The video of the grocery store that I linked to here looks like the country I saw at that time.

One day, I was traveling in a bus with a group of people I was on the trip with, and we saw a truck carrying watermelons. We hadn't had any fruit for days, and everyone got very excited at the sight of fruit. We flagged the driver down and purchased his watermelons. To this day ... that's the best fruit I ever tasted!

Lisa

Why are you comparing single payer health care to a former communist country?

Because the former Soviet Union was the epitome of centralized planning, Aaron, and you asked for examples!

North Korea and China are current examples you could study.

Government takeover of huge parts of the economy often leads to communism.
History has shown that it's always a first step.

I'm really happy that you're happy with your Canadian healthcare system, Aaron. That's the culture you were raised in, and if that's what you like, then I'm happy for you.

Americans prefer a more decentralized blend of government and free market for their healthcare, as do many Canadians who cross the border for their healthcare needs.

Lisa