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So Brittany spears must be better than The Who cause they never had a number one hit.
point was none of those guys have made great albums, recently, and the stones shouldn't be picked on any more than then
Fdem, I didn't even mention Brittney. She actually did have a few no. 1 hits. The Who didn't. Btw, I didn't pick on The Stones. They were very successful. You were the one who stated they were more successful than Elton, Paul, etc. which is not true, at least not according to the Billboard charts.
So Brittany spears must be better than The Who cause they never had a number one hit.
Anyway, he didn't mention a hit from Macca, or Paul Simon or Neil Young, ....or Bruce, or any okd timer
point was none of those guys have made great albums, recently, and the stones shouldn't be picked on any more than then
Almost no one makes great albums as they get on in life..what is your point...
and I believe Rob B. was just saying that includes the stones....also many are dropping like flies
I have not spoken about them not making a great album for a number of years...I've only stated that they are not IMO in the top 10-15 rock bands of all time because they are not as good lyricists. musicians or singers as many of the other groups mentioned here. They do their thing and it's not about the music
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
Fdem, I have the right to think differently than you. I respect that you think The Rolling Stones are the greatest. I have no problems with that. Please respect that I think differently.
If that's all Rob.B knows...think how little you know because Rob B. is a solid songwriter and producer of some pretty good stuff on this site...and I see nothing from you here that would tell me anything different
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
If that's all Rob.B knows...think how little you know because Rob B. is a solid songwriter and producer of some pretty good stuff on this site...and I see nothing from you here that would tell me anything different
Oh yeahhhhh? Let me find my song where you said such wonderful things about my writing and singing.
All I ask of people is consistency, in music, in sports, in women, in beer.
Oh yeahhhhh? Let me find my song where you said such wonderful things about my writing and singing.
I'll be waiting...in the meantime we really don't need the insults you throw around here..keep it civil and people will be civil back to you
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
If I listened to your song and critiqued it, I stand by my critique ....that still doesn't give you the right to insult Rob B.
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
Well I hate when people have to summon other people cause think there's safety in numbers.
I'll take u all in, and I won't ask for support.
As Pete wrote in Dr Jimmy.
I'll take on anyone, ain't scared of a bloody nose
Am I dealing with a child here...you actually took the time to write this stuff as a response to my post...WOW!!
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
The lyric is exceptionally good. Really good vocal.Builds really nicely. Nice job
These lines are so good.
"Somewhere on this adventure the GPS got lost the prophets lied about too little profit you didnt make back cost but there's no tell in your poker face it's time for a bid"
Steve
VNORTH2
I got tired of waiting and found the song myself Piano 2
That was one of 2 songs since some time in 2020 and I have no idea how many lyrics you've posted...can't remember critiquing any....my original comment is valid
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
The lyric is exceptionally good. Really good vocal.Builds really nicely. Nice job
These lines are so good.
"Somewhere on this adventure the GPS got lost the prophets lied about too little profit you didnt make back cost but there's no tell in your poker face it's time for a bid"
Steve
VNORTH2
I got tired of waiting and found the song myself Piano 2
That was one of 2 songs since some time in 2020 and I have no idea how many lyrics you've posted...can't remember critiquing any....my original comment is valid
I don't care what you think if my work, it doesn't change anything
The lyric is exceptionally good. Really good vocal.Builds really nicely. Nice job
These lines are so good.
"Somewhere on this adventure the GPS got lost the prophets lied about too little profit you didnt make back cost but there's no tell in your poker face it's time for a bid"
Steve
VNORTH2
I got tired of waiting and found the song myself Piano 2
That was one of 2 songs since some time in 2020 and I have no idea how many lyrics you've posted...can't remember critiquing any....my original comment is valid
I don't care what you think if my work, it doesn't change anything
I write alot, I don't record alot
But just a moment ago you were so anxious to prove me wrong now you don't care what I think of your work...which is it???
Until you post more of your work on this site, it's just talk and no walk....simple concept Fd..get off your butt and show people, here, that you deserve to be listened to.
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
The lyric is exceptionally good. Really good vocal.Builds really nicely. Nice job
These lines are so good.
"Somewhere on this adventure the GPS got lost the prophets lied about too little profit you didnt make back cost but there's no tell in your poker face it's time for a bid"
Steve
VNORTH2
I got tired of waiting and found the song myself Piano 2
That was one of 2 songs since some time in 2020 and I have no idea how many lyrics you've posted...can't remember critiquing any....my original comment is valid
I don't care what you think if my work, it doesn't change anything
I write alot, I don't record alot
But just a moment ago you were so anxious to prove me wrong now you don't care what I think of your work...which is it???
Until you post more of your work on this site, it's just talk and no walk....simple concept Fd..get off your butt and show people, here, that you deserve to be listened to.
It wasn't to prove you wrong, it was to expose you fir being a fake, and a liar.
You wanna protect your little Gilligan buddies, but you don't want to listen to a word I say. You say I should look fur critiques, meanwhile your praising me in other sings
You've proven to be a fraud, so your arguments shall be deemed the same.
And your arguments about the Beatles and musicianship, I shredded u
The lyric is exceptionally good. Really good vocal.Builds really nicely. Nice job
These lines are so good.
"Somewhere on this adventure the GPS got lost the prophets lied about too little profit you didnt make back cost but there's no tell in your poker face it's time for a bid"
Steve
VNORTH2
I got tired of waiting and found the song myself Piano 2
That was one of 2 songs since some time in 2020 and I have no idea how many lyrics you've posted...can't remember critiquing any....my original comment is valid
I don't care what you think if my work, it doesn't change anything
I write alot, I don't record alot
But just a moment ago you were so anxious to prove me wrong now you don't care what I think of your work...which is it???
Until you post more of your work on this site, it's just talk and no walk....simple concept Fd..get off your butt and show people, here, that you deserve to be listened to.
It wasn't to prove you wrong, it was to expose you fir being a fake, and a liar.
You wanna protect your little Gilligan buddies, but you don't want to listen to a word I say. You say I should look fur critiques, meanwhile your praising me in other sings
You've proven to be a fraud, so your arguments shall be deemed the same.
And your arguments about the Beatles and musicianship, I shredded u
Now if you don't want to contribute here go away
If by me not remembering I critiqued one of your songs I am a liar..fill your boots...you've only posted two songs in three years Piano1 and 2. You still can't carry Rob B.'s briefcase and the issue was you insulted him and you have yet to apologize to him for you rude and tasteless comment
I didn't say you should look for critiques, you said you were going to find the one song and show me what I had posted... and Gilligan buddies is a childish statement but then it seems that's who I am dealing with here
My comments about the Beatles was bang on ....they improved over time so you can put your comment in the shredder.
Interesting the fraud comment...every time you can't respond with a lucid comment you insult ...very Trumpian in nature.
Oh I'm not going away any time soon, but you may wish I had
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
There wasn't a time where I couldn't come up with a comment, you however move the goal post.
Once I show you how some of the greatest artist of all time, say they are the best, you sneak in... a duhhh notice how they didn't say anything about musicianship.
We're talking about the greatest rock band, not about yo yo ma.
But I'm ok with Dylan Pete and myself thinking they are great.
There wasn't a time where I couldn't come up with a comment, you however move the goal post.
Once I show you how some of the greatest artist of all time, say they are the best, you sneak in... a dihh notice how they didn't say anything about musicianship.
We're talking about the greatest Rick band, not about yo yo ma.
But I'm ok with dylan Pete and myself thinking they are great.
And there's countless others
OK in order to understand what you are saying, please make changes to all spelling errors before posting... I don't know what dihh is and I assume you mean Rock band not Rick band ....you should have spell check on your computer...it works pretty well...I'm not trying to be rude but some of the posts you make have many spelling errors and quite often lack punctuation...you often hit the I instead of the O....just a sugestion
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
I'm way past this now....you need to apologize to Rob B. for your rude comment
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
I'm way past this now....you need to apologize to Rob B. for your rude comment
It was my thread, the only person who treated it with respect was Mike z
Don't cry when your [naughty word removed] attacks backfire
You have been schooled, and know something about the subject before you debate
That's funny!!
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
When you insult someone, as you did with Rob B. it is no longer your thread and you have to be called out for the insult
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
No no dimwit, you started with the nonsense you can't think if 5, and you did it to be a dickk, the only reason.
That was only my opinion and you couldn't accept it...
what is if 5..do you mean of 5
dickk is spelled with one k at the end
my opinion stacks up pretty well
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
Put it this way, if mike z started this same thread, you would named 5 sings that's how lame you are
Mike has earned the respect of many people here and he and I are basically saying the same thing about the Stones...and no I would not name 5 songs
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
Put it this way, if mike z started this same thread, you would named 5 sings that's how lame you are
Mike has earned the respect of many people here and he and I are basically saying the same thing about the Stones...and no I would not name 5 songs
Whether or not anybody has earned anything, it shouldn't make you lie
Let oh I see that's what you came in this way, cause you and Mike said same thing.
I beg to differ he had a good response
Your such a kiss ass, that's a person I can't stand btw
And when did I lie....anywhere on this post
Mike had a very good response....but we were saying the same thing
Like I said ....you need to insult to put your point across....definite DJT imitation
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
Steve is referring to this post I made, well after I gave my "top 5":
Originally Posted by Michael Zaneski
If one succeeds with a certain formula, it is tempting to repeat that formula, ad nauseam. And that's okay, I suppose, but that's not to be confused with making art and being an artist.
The truly creative types fight "formula" and often throw a monkey wrench into how they work. They know the value of "awkward" and being a little lost, too. If you are forced down a new road you will probably see new things.
Brian Eno is a great mentor for understanding the value of a fluid, non-formulaic work process.
There's nothing wrong with the Stones being the Stones, but I don't confuse what they do with making "art" --they are making money. Art and commerce have always made strange bedfellows.
Dom, a pattern with you is that you consistently sling mud FIRST because you think you've had mud slung at you. Sometimes this is true, but more often it's simply cuz you misread the situation. It almost seems as if you just can't wait to fight, like there's a lot of pent up anger or frustration or something, I don't know. I know, I know, everyone is against you and it's you against the world. If only you could step back for a second and see that the only constant in all these situations...is you...
Mike
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 09/11/2311:04 PM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
Nope not going away...you're stuck with me for a long time now..this is way too much fun and really easy...I'm just getting started
If your answer changes depending on who's asking, that's a lie, and pitiful
What does that mean? Who's asking what?? I asked you to point out where I lied...this is just an inane vague statement about lying
you expect couch answers... did you mean... you respect couch's answers
And yes I insult when I sense a phony. So you insult yourself all the time?
Please answer me one question. Is English your first language because you seem to struggle with it
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
Steve is referring to this post I made, well after I gave my "top 5":
Originally Posted by Michael Zaneski
If one succeeds with a certain formula, it is tempting to repeat that formula, ad nauseam. And that's okay, I suppose, but that's not to be confused with making art and being an artist.
The truly creative types fight "formula" and often throw a monkey wrench into how they work. They know the value of "awkward" and being a little lost, too. If you are forced down a new road you will probably see new things.
Brian Eno is a great mentor for understanding the value of a fluid, non-formulaic work process.
There's nothing wrong with the Stones being the Stones, but I don't confuse what they do with making "art" --they are making money. Art and commerce have always made strange bedfellows.
Dom, a pattern with you is that you consistently sling mud FIRST because you think you've had mud slung at you. Sometimes this is true, but more often it's simply cuz you misread the situation. It almost seems as if you just can't wait to fight, like there's a lot of pent up anger or frustration or something, I don't know. I know, I know, everyone is against you and it's you against the world. If only you could step back for a second and see that the only constant in all these situations...is you...
Mike
It's not anger, I do have a problem with authority sometimes, and worse, when the authority is only a figment of their minds.
In this case here the authority was laughable.
I don't like being talked down to, but this is not anger, I don't mind playing the mind games and war if words, it's fun sometimes and other times gives me ideas for songs
You don't like being talked down to but it's OK for you to say to Rob B.....Hi Rob b, you know Jack [naughty word removed]...I'll put in the missing word "shi*' If I'm a part of that comment then yes I'm going to respond as I have tonight...if you think you're being talked down to that is your issue....you also insulted me today and on another post a couple of days ago when I was only trying to help you in another battle you were in over posting your songs...
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
But if you ain't going, I'll go. You might want to apologize to Rob B. before you go...he deserves one
Creators of music have a responsibility to their craft. When they have finished using all the notes and words, they must pass them down to the next generation with a simple request. “Use these to create new music.”...Steven McDonald
Thanks Steve for your efforts here. Fdem will only apologize if I go away. That’s what he offered me in a previous thread. He starts calling people names when he runs out of arguments. He did the same thing in my “Shame, Shame, Shame” thread. He even posted his own drum track in that thread and asked for feedback, instead of creating his own thread. Brian Austin Whitney (one of the moderators here) confirmed that he hijacked that thread of mine and called him a “usual suspect” and used the word “troll”. That was a very well-written critique by Brian. The way Fdem reacted to Brian’s post shows that it’s a total waste of time to discuss things with him.
Fdem claims you and I teamed up on him. Total nonsense. You named a Stones song. Tony and I are the only ones here so far who didn’t. I just don’t like the band and I explained why. Fdem is a Stones fan. I’m not. For some reason he can’t accept that. He insulted me because I agreed with what you wrote. WHAT? I don’t see anything wrong with that. Apparently, he does. Brian’s advice: “Ignore the trolls. Who are the trolls? Obviously for many, a troll is someone you disagree with who won't stop disagreeing. Don't feed the trolls and they will starve, feed them and they will never go away and will attract more to join in.“
Thanks Steve for your efforts here. Fdem will only apologize if I go away. That’s what he offered me in a previous thread. He starts calling people names when he runs out of arguments. He did the same thing in my “Shame, Shame, Shame” thread. He even posted his own drum track in that thread and asked for feedback, instead of creating his own thread. Brian Austin Whitney (one of the moderators here) confirmed that he hijacked that thread of mine and called him a “usual suspect” and used the word “troll”. That was a very well-written critique by Brian. The way Fdem reacted to Brian’s post shows that it’s a total waste of time to discuss things with him.
Fdem claims you and I teamed up on him. Total nonsense. You named a Stones song. Tony and I are the only ones here so far who didn’t. I just don’t like the band and I explained why. Fdem is a Stones fan. I’m not. For some reason he can’t accept that. He insulted me because I agreed with what you wrote. WHAT? I don’t see anything wrong with that. Apparently, he does. Brian’s advice: “Ignore the trolls. Who are the trolls? Obviously for many, a troll is someone you disagree with who won't stop disagreeing. Don't feed the trolls and they will starve, feed them and they will never go away and will attract more to join in.“
All the best - Robert
Run out of arguments, I obliterated both ofyou at the same thing.
Hey, I'm not a huge stones fan either, some of their tired blues sings bore me, and others make me feel old listening.
But I don't know how you could be a musician, ir somebody who has ever played in a band ant not understand how important the stones are
I used to know metal guys who didn't like them. Cause they didn't like rock n roll
You are clearly are not a guitar player, not a rock n roller, and I knew this before this thread.
And I think you think too much of your own writing.
Listen to greatness, the stones are rock n roll, any band playing today is getting informed by.the stones whether they know it or not
Don't like rock n roll? Ok, not everybody does.
But it's not good or bad cause you like it or don't.
But I don't know how you could be a musician, ir somebody who has ever played in a band ant not understand how important the stones are And I think you think too much of your own writing. Listen to greatness, the stones are rock n roll, any band playing today is getting informed by.the stones whether they know it or not
But I don't know how you could be a musician, ir somebody who has ever played in a band ant not understand how important the stones are And I think you think too much of your own writing. Listen to greatness, the stones are rock n roll, any band playing today is getting informed by.the stones whether they know it or not
Lol, you did that by not listening to the Stones, get outta here, I don't believe it...... lmaooooo
Hey, pretty good groove, really good production, decent singer....
But that's not Rock n roll , that is alt pop,.
I dont know why you want my approval, I don't want yours, so that's not fair.
I figured out that you were not a musician a while ago, and I can tell you use what you can find, and write a melody on top if it.
That's fine, you don't have to be a musician to write songs. I write most of my songs away from any instrument , I figure it out after I'm done, it serves me well.
I'm not a great musician, used to be much better, but I would say that musicianship and songwriting are intrinsically linked.
I wouldn't be able to make sense of my ideas if I didn't have a foundation of music.
I figured out that you were not a musician a while ago, and I can tell you use what you can find, and write a melody on top if it.
What do you mean by "you use what you can find"? You have no idea how I write songs, do you? I program my instruments. I'm a programmer, not a musician. But, who cares anyway. If a song is good, I don't care how it was written or recorded.
Thanks for the feedback. I prefer not to discuss with you where you draw the lines between rock'n roll, rock, alt pop, etc.
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