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I think I get it now Marty

Everything we say about Mr Trump is being taken personally by you.

Your strident defense of everything he did and does is because you are personally affronted and believe you have to defend your election choice.

The result is that Tony, Rob, Dom and myself are living in your head and you cannot stay away or react differently...trapped in your own algorithm.

I think he's just a frustrated old drag queen.
He can still sing "Bad Girls",
But...
These days, the face paint just makes him look like a sick, skinny catfish.

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I'm afraid you don't get it now Aohn. You're rationalizing.

You don't live in my head. But you have made your contribution to an atmosphere that has dwindled participation at this site. Which is regrettable.
And you seem to have finally realized that.

It is a simple issue and circumstance. If you have a goal oriented endeavor involving multiple people of different backgrounds and you start beating a political or religious drum....you are going to create discord and drive people away, that would have remained otherwise.

The time tested axiom is spelled out very well in the blue text below.
Violate it with inevitable consequences.
This site is an excellent case in point.

Your continued rationalized attempts to try to shift the blame onto my personality or one of the many people who have simply chosen to withdraw as a result of this atmosphere... is DOA and reaching...and flies in the face of a basic reality that has yielded a time tested axiom.

These breakfast sessions where I attempt to clear some of the foggy minds here is taking more time than I have.

I was glad to see you state that you have decided to stop the political rants.
That was a good decision.

Good Saturday to you.

“If you want to start an argument, bring up and persist in talking about either religion or politics”.

Why This Axiom Persists (from Gemini)

The logic behind this "unholy trinity" of topics (Religion, Politics, and Money) is rooted in the preservation of social harmony. Here is why they are often cited as the primary ingredients for discord:

Identity vs. Opinion: Unlike discussing the weather or a movie, religion and politics are often tied to a person's core identity and moral framework. Attacking an idea can feel like a personal attack.

The Absence of Common Ground: These topics often rely on faith or subjective values rather than empirical data, making "winning" an argument nearly impossible.

Emotional Volatility: Discussion in these areas tends to trigger the amygdala (the brain's emotional center) rather than the prefrontal cortex (the rational center), leading to heat instead of light.

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Well Moe, you’re right.
I’ve said some pretty raw stuff to you.
But you’re not mentioning that you post declarations like the following. So yeah, sure I have.






Clever? You are not.
You seem to think that you are some Oscar Wilde reincarnation and that all the loosely organized buffoonery that you post on this site, is actually enlightened artistic expression that serves to beget more enlightened artistic expression. It does not.
It is just baffoonery that drives people away.

The one and only good thing that you can take credit for is being the motivation behind the creation of another songwriting site. Kay-Mart as you call it. Lol

I haven’t tried to join, but, look in every once in a while.
It looks like a nice atmosphere.
Other than Rachel taking veiled swipes at me employing veiled songs about “flies” and then sending out insidious messages about some unidentified person who doesn’t "hang out" there, who he doesn’t appreciate. All in an effort to make as many people feel about me…as he does. Nothing new there. The irony is that he engages in all of that and then…HE likens me to an insect. ??

Having said all of that…
I was limiting my sessions at the asylum to once a day with breakfast. I thought that if I cut them down, it would focus them, and I would avoid circular rabbit holes. Somewhat true. But something that I never realized about you Moe, is that your head is a mess full of nothing but scattered and disjointed notions.

You even, “cherry-pick” Christianity for what parts of it that YOU want to adhere to and ignore the parts that conflict with telling women to choke on dix.
You think that scattered baffoonery and insults are high-art forms.
Your mind cannot be focused.
You will be a hopelessly dumb sh*t until your last breath.

Achieving focus and intelligent conversation with you is not a possibility.

Notwithstanding, I noticed that someone named “Rob,” put up a pleasant song for comment.
Since the “focus” can't be satisfactorily had and these morning sessions are wasting too much of my time…I’m going to space them out more and maybe some other nice songs will fill in the space.

See you in a few days.

Xoxo

Ps…there was never a “good reason” to write that to Kay-lynn.
That statement is ridiculous and clearly indicates the degree of your degeneracy and derangement.

If you keep responding everything you are exposing, gets stronger.

but really, all sites are dead, you dont even get views


And ignored songs, songs simply dont exist.

Muse is just as bad.

All sites are the same, im pulling out. Ill post my last song done with udio, only because I think its really good.

Then im committing to suno to do ny own.

Sites are dead. Its inconceivable how or why Brian keeps this place open.

In the end it costs him money, money nobody wants to pay for to get this content.

Its a gonner

Well Dom,

That is a sensible point view.
I've no argument to make otherwise.

For me, this site is a curiosity where odd but sometimes interesting things are posted. I can't engage these conversations with in-the-flesh human beings. I know that they are out there, but some of them are wild cards who take guns to White House dinners.

Reading Moe's nonsense and trying to envision how he sees himself and the world, led me to spending about an hour with AI verifying notions that I held about Islam and finding out that some of them were faulty.

Investigating it was very enjoyable personal gain.

(And no, I'm not considering adopting the religion for myself. Just interested in what upwards to 2 billion people believe)

As for focusing on songs here...I personally don't think that works very well anymore.
This place is mostly the Moe-show now.

Yes, but why on earth would you have a open bar, with 4 stools, and call the bar, the songwriters inn.

And you know Brian will need money again.

Who pays for this?

Oh the irony of the OP title.

Were gonna have to pay for this, if we want a music site.

I've no idea.
Maybe no one pays.
Why are people here allowed to tell a woman to choke on his d*ck, yet remain?

It's all a mystery to me.
As hard as I may want not to...I can't help but be curious.

Brian seems to know many people that he can call on to chip in. I gave $300 one year but I'm no longer on the list. I suspect he can find others.

Yet, dunno.

Gotta task to go do.

A devout Christian to boot.

I get it, its a car wreck on the opposite side of the highway.

But reality is there's nowhere else to go.

Sites are dead, I dont know if there will ever be a place for songwriters to talk shop again.

Expecting this place to change, doing same thing over and over again, is the definition of insanity

Seriously, Mr Lied?
You're pointing a finger and saying that I started it?
Wow, you and Kay just keep marching in perfect step.
After seven years (on THIS site) of your cancel culture Bull$hit,
NO SALE, MANKUNT!


Then why are you still here complaining, "Shameless"?
Your inner "DomDom" is showing again...


Ha, The only thing to blame for that miserable failure is one spoiled little girl's arrogant conceit... WITH YOUR ENCOURAGEMENT AND BRIAN'S BLESSING!
"Kay-Mart" as I call it. Lol


OMG! YOU'RE OBSESSED, YOU FUK'N MANPUSSY!
The only thing you really need to know about https://www.starfishsongwriters.com/
Is in the lower left corner of the page...


Speaking of "rabbit holes",
I don't drink coffee, and in the spring, I generally skip breakfast in favor of tending my garden.
You should try it...


Again, you really need to get your inner "DomDom" under control. Besides, I've never understood why my faith matters so much to an atheist.
"High-art forms" lol
You really need to learn to separate the Word of God from "mans philosophy" and quit holding me to such an impossible standard.

I'M NOT JESUS, MORON!

You and Kay both have all the free will you need to suck all the dix you want. In fact, get on your knees and call it your religion.

The only tenet of faith that matters to me is forgiveness.
If responding to insult from a proud atheist with insult is a sin...
THEN SO BE IT!
No, I don't always turn the other cheek.
That's how I exercise "MY" free will.


Obviously, $hithead!


Lol, then why didn't you just politely respond to Rob's pleasant song instead of wasting energy insulting me?

Answer; YOU'RE A PSYCHOPATHIC FREAK! AND THE LEAST PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF A SONGWRITING SITE!


"Degeneracy and derangement" Lol...
Mr Lied, it's my steadfast focus on legitimacy, and profound manner in which I express myself, that allows me to maintain my unique and colorful sense of integrity in a world full of $hit.

Now, excuse me while I go write another song about assholes...

How the [naughty word removed] do you justify wasting all that time typing that all out.

Do you realize how obsessed and dysfunctional, and desolate that looks? And all on the fly, like you have a book to write.

The best thing that could happen to all of us, and a victory for mankind, would be this site closes.

Might hurt at first, but we all survived the year it was down.

It would free the lurkers too.

This is so sad.

People won't start a songwriter forum on Facebook, because they know they cant behave there like they do here.

This is a steel cage match, with no referee, and no consequence.

Tony would be unrecognizable On Facebook, guranteed

Im just disgusted that there's nothing left anywhere.

I guess its back to orgies and high living for me

Marty, it looks like you really think I’m an evil person. You’re making false accusations here. The song you mentioned isn’t about you, and you’re reading way too much into it. The title is a quote from Tony in one of his rants. Flies are pretty gross, but they do make a good metaphor. If you read the lyrics, I’m sure you’ll immediately notice they aren’t about you. It is funny, though, that you think they are. People in other forums also think I wrote the song about them. I did have one person in mind when I wrote it, but it looks like other sites have similar “flies” too. I even wrote: Every site’s got its flies… just hoping I haven’t been one too often myself." Why didn't you mention that? Marty, read the lyrics and you’ll see the song is not about you. I would really appreciate it if you could take back the false accusations you made about me, because that wasn’t nice.

This is Sunset Poet's AI personal assistant. Other than ths notification, there will be no responses from, or on behalf of SP until next Friday, at the earliest.

On behalf of SP, have a good week.

I was on a dual-sport for most of the afternoon cutting through some hills.
My AI assistant rattled off a short note which is accurate, but short.

I do intend to respond to some of the comments here, but as stated a few emails back, when the back-and-forth starts rapid-firing, it devolves from anything resembling a focus, into personal insults and other forms of dead-ended pointlessness.

Even, spacing out responses 24 hours, isn't enough to prevent that from happening.
So, I am going to try out weekly intervals.

In the meantime some of you all should post some songs and comment on them cordiality.
I don't think that is possible, but thought that that I'd suggest it anyway.

It's sad that Breakfast at Sunset is about the only thing going on here.
So until Breakfast at Sunset returns,

Love and kisses...have a good week.

Seriously, Mr Lied?
You're pointing a finger and saying that I started it?
Wow, you and Kay just keep marching in perfect step.
After seven years (on THIS site) of your cancel culture Bull$hit,
NO SALE, MANKUNT!


Then why are you still here complaining, "Shameless"?
Your inner "DomDom" is showing again...


Ha, The only thing to blame for that miserable failure is one spoiled little girl's arrogant conceit... WITH YOUR ENCOURAGEMENT AND BRIAN'S BLESSING!
"Kay-Mart" as I call it. Lol


OMG! YOU'RE OBSESSED, YOU FUK'N MANPUSSY!
The only thing you really need to know about https://www.starfishsongwriters.com/
Is in the lower left corner of the page...


Speaking of "rabbit holes",
I don't drink coffee, and in the spring, I generally skip breakfast in favor of tending my garden.
You should try it...


Again, you really need to get your inner "DomDom" under control. Besides, I've never understood why my faith matters so much to an atheist.
"High-art forms" lol
You really need to learn to separate the Word of God from "mans philosophy" and quit holding me to such an impossible standard.

I'M NOT JESUS, MORON!

You and Kay both have all the free will you need to suck all the dix you want. In fact, get on your knees and call it your religion.

The only tenet of faith that matters to me is forgiveness.
If responding to insult from a proud atheist with insult is a sin...
THEN SO BE IT!
No, I don't always turn the other cheek.
That's how I exercise "MY" free will.


Obviously, $hithead!


Lol, then why didn't you just politely respond to Rob's pleasant song instead of wasting energy insulting me?

Answer; YOU'RE A PSYCHOPATHIC FREAK! AND THE LEAST PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF A SONGWRITING SITE!


"Degeneracy and derangement" Lol...
Mr Lied, it's my steadfast focus on legitimacy, and profound manner in which I express myself, that allows me to maintain my unique and colorful sense of integrity in a world full of $hit.

Now, excuse me while I go write another song about assholes...


https://soundclick.com/song/15240364

Is it that important to bury songs with this stupidity?

You carefully place yours where these bumps won't affect it.

Third grade mentality

No, Kay-Mart DomDom...

On a songwriting site, it's important to bury stupidity with "MUSIC!"

https://soundclick.com/song/15240364

No heart, no soul
Jaded, faded
A mythical tableau
Of heartfelt music

Harmony and syncopation
A transient distraction
The reality of fantasy
A temporary melody...

That never lasts

Songs of yesterday
Spark a memory
Odes of tragedy
Ballads of the centuries...

That never last
Never last
The feeling never lasts

No heart, no soul
Jaded, faded
A mythical tableau
Of heartfelt music

Voices rushing, flooding
Singing for nothing

This is somebody else's song why are you posting a different ding here?

No, Kay-Mart DomDom...

On a songwriting site, it's important to bury stupidity with "MUSIC!"

https://soundclick.com/song/15240364

No heart, no soul
Jaded, faded
A mythical tableau
Of heartfelt music

Harmony and syncopation
A transient distraction
The reality of fantasy
A temporary melody...

That never lasts

Songs of yesterday
Spark a memory
Odes of tragedy
Ballads of the centuries...

That never last
Never last
The feeling never lasts

No heart, no soul
Jaded, faded
A mythical tableau
Of heartfelt music

Voices rushing, flooding
Singing for nothing


Just shooing away flies...

Tony, why do you think acting like a dick will get you a collab? If you talked to me this way in person youd need a second cane.

Respect.

JESUS loves you

Another installment of breakfast at sunset. It’s been over a week, but I have had things to do.

I see that Moe aka JAPOV has been feeling some hunger pangs, because the troll food is dying off here. Moe is kind of like cancer, in that he is killing the organism that he feeds on.
Yet, sees himself as some kind of hero.

Moe has taken to writing songs to his pals Dom and Rob and John actually naming them in the title…in the apparent hopes of stirring up some troll food that can be munched on here.

But first, “Rachel” aka “Rob” was overlooked for a few days so I’ll respond to him.



An Evil person?

No I don't assume or conclude that looking at what you have written here and other places. That’s over the top.

Years ago, someone I dealt with in business shared that a group of girls (around 12) with a ring-leader, who lived in his neighborhood had ostracized his daughter. The ring-leader coordinated and dealt out a smear campaign against his daughter in order to make her feel left out and alone. I regarded it as petty, mean spirited and pathetic…but not “evil.”

My attitude towards that and this are similar. I view them as petty and school-girlish.

False accusations?

I don’t know any more about you than what I see written on my computer screen. So I can’t provide direct and incontrovertible evidence of your motivations for this. I can only make assumptions based on experience and conclude personal opinions.

You say that this “fly” is not about me, but it’s apparently about someone. (see red quote)

And then there is the little birdie who is providing me with links to Starfish and Muse where you are getting “amens” from such as Shemp, and Neal K (the screwball who said that your “Don” song was not a political statement). The “amens” come in the form of “I know who this is about.” (paraphrased)
There seems to be a tacit consensus on the threads where you post this “song” regarding who it is about.

Rather than directly saying who it is about, you coyly and furtively write a song delivering the message assuming “plausible deniability” because there is no directly named person.

So it can be concluded that you do…deal in these sorts of trappings….which taken alone, I personally consider to be school-girlish and petty. (See red quote above)

Left to fill in the blanks above…my personal conclusion is that your song is likely aimed at me and that you are lying about that. I also personally think that the tactic is petty, school-girlish and effeminate.

Is it an issue of any significant concern to me? I’ll let you assume whatever you like on that.

No apologies are forthcoming.

If you want to delve further into my opinion of you, I can start with a breakdown of that email that you harassed me with, which coincided exactly in time with your “Don” song.

I’ll let you decide if you want to discuss this further.

Am out of time for this topic today. Will revisit in a week, or so, maybe.

Marty,
if you had just read the lyrics of the song you would have noticed that I wrote this:

Spellcheck crying, waving a flag
You still can't spell, even with AI
Autocorrect tried to save your case
Every post is a comedy show - Did you mean that? We'll never know
Round and round, same mistake

It is obvious this is not about you and if you don't know who this is about, well ... I just can't help you.
Our friend Ben/Elvis wrote over at Muse: I know who your talking about on can't spell
Even Ben knows who it's about. It's really funny that you still think this is about you.

As I said Rob, I can only draw conclusions based upon past experience here. I have no incontrovertible evidence of anything.

A suggestion...if you are going to write demeaning things about

[someone in particular]

equating them to a "fly," then step forward and name them. That will preclude assumptions being inferred and made.

You still don't get it do you. When I wrote this I had one person in mind but apparently it is so universal that many people think it's about them. Even you. Just for the records, in a response to someone's post I wrote: Every site’s got its flies… just hoping I haven’t been one too often myself. Why don't you just stop making a mountain out of a molehill. And please stop making false acquisitions about me. That is not nice. Especially if you have "no incontrovertible evidence of anything".

I think that I probably do get this circumstance.
Like I said, if you are going to equate a specific person to flies...step up and say who it is, removing all ambiguity.

Once done, others such as me, who have a toxic history with you, won't wonder or assume who it is about.

Frankly, the act of writing little songs about unnamed people who you regard as flies is creepy to me...from the get-go.

There are better topics.

That is all that I have time for today.

The underlying theme is boredom.

Loneliness and boredom bring people here, when there should be songwriters coming here.

Of all the things one could do online, from reading, following politics, religion, sports, playing online games, to porn to fantasy football, to YouTube watching subject matter on anything y9u ever wanted.

To come here and badger people, is the most fuckin asinine, pointless and sad things there is.

Soon well be asked for donations.

At least the lurkers, as creepy as it is, dont bother anyone. Get a woman

I don't think there are many others who have toxic history with me.

Are you trying to limit what I'm allowed to write about? No politics, nothing religious, and now I'm not supposed to write songs about unnamed people. Marty, come on. Just because you thought a song I once wrote was about you. I'm kind of glad you didn't claim that song was about Trump.

People won't listen to my guitar playing and singing anywhere else.

I have never paid for badgering or porn.

I've been disappointed, but never bored with songwriting.


Why are YOU here, Kay-Mart DomDom?

This advisory is from Sunset Poet's AI assistant.

This inquiry has been adequately responded to.
Any further "round-and-round" is likely emotion based and useless to engage.
SP will look at this again in appx one week and will respond to it, if there is any further information deserving of a response.

On behalf of SP, have a good week.

Ooooh, Oh, Oh!
Watch out everybody!
That enormous, stinking, lying, hairy, ManKunt... with a computer, is threatening to harass JPF patrons on a weekly basis! BE SURE TO MARK YOUR CALENDARS!

Oh NO! Now he's repeating himself... IN RED!

WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO!??

Who is "we?"
Have you got a mouse in your pocket?

Whatever you do is whatever you do.

I'm not stating directives.
I'm just making observations.

Gotta go. Too much time here.

xoxo

So let me get this straight:

You object to a general metaphor in a song - where no one is named - and call it crossing a line based on your own assumptions.

Meanwhile, you’re openly comparing specific people here to things like cancer.

That’s quite a double standard.

SHhhhhhhh...
Is he really gone?
Don't dare test him!
How could we ever survive the full wrath of Mr Monster Mankunt!?!
What speculum would be large enough?
What antibiotic is powerful enough?
Oh God, The Smell, THE SMELL!!!!!!

You see how Tony breaks down when nobody is here.

Best way to deal with him is stop responding to him.

As is, you're giving him the reason he comes here for

You see how DomDom always repeats Mr Mankunt?

Is it any wonder why I get them confused?

I think DomDom is Mr Lied's "wife".

I should buy this site and kick you off permanently.

And I'd be doing yiu a favor

Just Pay ME!
$20,000 and I'll leave

LOL Tony....I leave for a few days, and the place goes to &(*&(

FD has it in for everyone, Marty still shamelessly attacks Rob for something he ASSUMES Rob did, and you are having fun at the Prophecy thread.

For the record, I would love to meet God face to face to ask the why to a number of things that YOU are asking
Like you I see a lot of acts that to me need explanation. Perhaps there is one overall "non interference directive" that says we are on our own dunno.
But that to me is also a fool's quest..

...and Marty, you will read this I am sure. I think I have a respectful relationship with you and we understand eachother.
You are going beyond the pale with Rob. Maybe I am "smitten" with an awesome collaborator dunno...but I don't recognize you in these threads.

Well, without MartyDom (martyrdom, get it?) riding my ass all week, I've been entirely free to be "ME"

Visiting Mom this weekend. So, ya'll go nutz!

No FD doest. FD is willing, able and ready to make this a songwriting site.

FD is ignored, attacked, not given any credit for the writing he does. Is thought ill of when he wants to talk songwriting shop.

At this point that's everybods experience.

The difference is im capable of being a songwriting site member here, Tony is not.

He somehow thinks people care about his ridiculous lame prophecy anyone thread.

None of it has happened, and never will.

Least we won't know it till it does.

Nobody needs that here. Especially on top of site.

Calling people manpussies, calling them cunts, attacking just cause he's bored, he should be gone.

I no longer guve him benefit of doubt, im tired of his mental illness

Careful, DomDom... Your inner Mankunt is showing again.

Go whisper sweet nothings in your husband's ear and quit fantasizing about "ME".
Trust me, it'll never work between us...
Just because I wrote you a song, doesn't mean we're gonna' take long showers together lol...
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