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The gist is that you are drawing attention to the shortcomings of how I write.

While on the subject of writing, could you re-phrase whatever is stated here into something comprehensible?

Gotta go. Will check back tomorrow...maybe.

[VERSE 1]
When we parted ways, that was long overdue.
All we did was argue, there was no me and you.
Years went by ,I found new love and moved on with my life.
I quickly forgot you, and all the endless strife

So first of all, this is so dull and unpoetic, and not a single good line in it.

All your trying to do with it is get to yourr chorus.

Songs ate like women they need foreplay.

Its not a bad opening line, because it gets right to it, you know what happened.

But its just so far and away from good writing.

Hope that helps

The verse wasn't an attempt to win a Nobel Prize.
It described a situation and a state of mind...reasonably well.

Your critique style is...


Your sister is ugly.
She could be pretty.
But she's ugly.


That's empty and goes nowhere.
It just serves the purpose of delivering a diminishing insult.

You put a song up and I gave it a genuine critique.
You are thin skinned, and these empty insults are your reflexive coping mechanism.

Don't expect an adult to take it seriously.

Gotta go

But dont you think to give a harsh, genuine critique, you should be better at writing thsn this, piece?

I mean how do you know,what's good if you haven't written good?

I don't think that's the real issue here.

I don't claim to be a great writer. I claim to enjoy writing. However good I am is however good I am.

I think that if you were actually better at writing,

all these insults would not be going on. Neither would all the self-proclaimed greatness of your own songs be going on.

People would compliment your writing often enough that you would be satisfied with that.

But they don't, and you cope with it by tossing out empty insults.

And you think the quality of the song in any way matters who responds here?

Ive posted excerpts from some if the greatest songs ever written, and gotten no response here.

Nobody is here.

If the few active members could come together for a common cause, it might be something.

But im already considered the bad guy here, all ive ever done was talk music here.

Lack of response has nothing to do with the quality, and you know it

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You should create a fake person like this guy

There is truth in that.
But the problem is that you are in complete denial about the causative factors. And it does not look like that will ever change.

So rather than fixing it, you are going to continue the pattern of calling anyone who disagrees with you a talent-less hack or some other such insult.

its robot songs create a fake person whatever you like to call yourself and get comments on FB

There is a real good idea for Dom.
Create an AI avatar and put your songs up on Ytube, Fbook, Instagram, X...and see what kind of responses come from people who are not part of a "social club."

Compliments or criticism from strangers with no motivation not to say how they truly feel, is the most reliable kind of feedback that can be had. That is what focus-groups are about.

I think I may do that myself.
Great suggestion Ben.

The general audience is really all that matters, but you won't find regular listeners on sites like these.

You find people doing the same thing you are.

Youtube has some of the best indie singer songwriters with videos that have 49 views, and three comments.

Again not accurate

This guy is getting more attention, but it took him decades.

Ive been a fan for a long time. And met him in New york

2 k views for this song is a travesty
He should be a big time artist.

Dom,

I truthfully don't like your songs.
I don't like your typical subject matter and the lines that you quote, that light you up, and you say, make them great...don't even strike me as good, much less great.

So, if I comment on them and want to keep you from attacking me, I have to lie.
If I don't comment on them, you rattle on about how I am boycotting them and leading a conspiracy...which I am not. I have turned down two PM invitations to harass you.

There is another personality in the past who occasionally put up songs that burnt my ears. I could not find something in them to compliment. Rather than lie, I just left them alone.

The difference between you and him is that he never accused me of leading a conspiracy to boycott them. He never said anything anti-social to anyone.

The moral of the story...
If someone doesn't like your song, respond to the crit once and move on.
They aren't awarding Grammys here.

That's ok if you dont like my songs .

But I find it hard to belive you like any song here. But like the people better.

I dont think we come herea
and expect to hear songs that we like.

We have the Beatles and Paul Simon and Billy Joel and Springsteen and tom petty to like.

You dont like Springsteen either, so that kinda puts your not liking my songs in perspective.

But your not coming here to find great music you just love.

You come as a fellow songwriter looking for feedback, cause you write and want to know what others think.

If you ignore them or lie to them, you are doing them a disservice, and I guess you expect the same.

If I review somebody, I in no way think this is going to me my favorite songwriter to listen to.

I hate nost music on the radio, I hate alot more music than I like.

Theres a difference between acknowledging what somebody is trying to do, and loving it

We have the Beatles and Paul Simon and Billy Joel and Springsteen and tom petty to like. oh brother thats 50 years ago. Whats so great about them anyway , it's a song . if I see one more post on the Beatles im going to kill my computer . How old are you ? , it's 2026. Who the hell are the Beatles by a 22 year old ?

That is hard to square, if not bizarre coming from you.

My stated practice on this and other sites was to find something to like about someones song and specifically compliment that and/or just comment "nice song, enjoyed it."

For the exact purpose of acknowledging the effort, energy and passion...even if the song didn't really light me up.

And when I did that, you would rattle how it was somehow dismissive and condescending in some alternate mind-scape to merely say "nice song, enjoyed it."

And you would go on and on about how I and everyone else have a duty to comment and tell-it-like-it-is, so they the greatest output can be achieved on a songwriting site frequented by amateurs.

You and I and "songwriters" like us, are the blind leading the blind. We have no experience that bears out realistic wins and losses in the music business. We're just surmising and commenting according to whatever sensibilities that we possess.

The other day I commented on Kay-lynn's America song. And I stand by my comment. But the comment was based in the sensibilities of a random US citizen with a fascination for historical evolution. And a skeptical view of a singularity called "America."

Kay-Lynn quoted someone with years of musical publishing experience. They praised the song as something that could work and could respond to a need. In the sphere of viable commercial musical sensibilities, that is a real opinion.

By comparison, my opinion in that sphere is just the ramblings of rambling rambler.

And the best thing that happened to me was the opportunity to see a publisher's opinion go head-to-head with mine. (even though he is completely unaware of me)

So yes, I agree that acknowledgement is good glue in an atmosphere like this site, but your new proclamation above regarding acknowledgement is completely inconsistent with your past posts.

The inconsistency appears to be based in "denial."

If you want a hit make it a love song, make it soar into the chorus, make it emotional, have a great singer. And most of all get lottery type of lucky.

Im not interested in any of that. Its not going to happen.

I dont know who said kae lynnes song was great, we dont know that.

But a guitar teacher fir example, does not need to be a rock star, or had any success in music, he can still teach you to play, and can still play on your record.

You continue to confuse business with art.

None of us are making money. All we have left is the
art.

Rock and pop examine way more emotions than. Just love and relationships.

To say yiu should write songs people can relate to is like...

How do you know what somebody can relate to?. If I feel something chances are somebody had too

Somethings not good because I say so, its good because its good. Good being subjective of course.

But there's tons of objectivity too

Maybe we analyze too much...

But you know well, that when you invest time in something, you put it here that you expect more than a atta boy.

Nobody wants to hear...pleasant tune.

I think they'd rather hear, I dont know man, im not feelin this one.

And the system of you say something nice. Ill say something nice looms large.

If somebody really thinks my songs bad I wanna hear it. But if its not done with the right intent, Like yours then your gonna hear it.

I have limited knowledge of country, majority of people here prefer country.

But I try to understand what they are doing...are they pitching, are they the artist. Is the lyric interesting. Is the melody bad.

But I dont ask them to not be country.

Certain elements are universal.

For me the most important thing is having character in the sing that is living. Not a paper character somebody who is really there.

The music adds to that.

This to me is one of THE most powerful songs ive ever heard.

Its not warm snd fuzzy, only deeply hurt or mentally unstableb men could relate to this. Might even be misogynistic.

The first time I heard this song was at a friend's house, he opened his Neil young song book.

It blew my fuckin doors off. Somebody else playing it too

The emotion of it, nothing relatable but just that.

According to you he shoukd not write this.

I can't make sense of your post.
Can only wonder what explains it.

Your last two posts are a fog to me.

This site is boiling down to you arguing with me or Ben or John or person X.
That's not much left here.

If you want people to like you and respond to your songs...then thank them when they leave a comment and move on and don't return.

Never insult.
Avoid divisive topics

Compliment others, but don't give the blow-by-blow re-directions on how they should write...per you.

If you actually know how to write great songs...then let the world go by...and write great songs.

Never aay stupid [naughty word removed] about writing sings that people can relate to, because you dint know.

Don't try to back out now you started it.

Relate to this

Translate to English please.

Back out?
Back out of what?

My song thread that you dug up to take shots at?

Dom,
I'm going to have to go back to weekly rations with you.
I've stumbled into creating a multi-course serving of troll food...to your delight.
This is going in circles and making no sense.

Like I said,
No nasty names
No divisive topics
If someone thinks your song is lousy and says so, respond short and sweet and move on.

I don't think that you can do that...but there is the fix.

Lol. Do what you gotta do