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I see 32 registered users online as well as 7 invisible. That's 39 people who can post. Now as I see it 65% percent or (maybe more) could be away from the computer just logged on; however, I wonder who all is really here because the comments have been about 1 per hour (maybe more, but slow at any rate). I spoke into the shoutbox 2 hours ago and not one snide remark. So I am proposing a test. First 4 people who respond to this in a minutes time, I will send you 10 dollars. So let's see who is out there?
Derek

Too late! lol

ahhh I wasn't even on when you posted.....

Maybe next time I should make it 10 minutes?
Derek

Hey Kathy

As a concellation prize here is a hug (((Kathy)))
Derek

What, you think this is instant messaging?

I am here,
Tony

Hey L william

You may have a point lol. Maybe if I pointed out the reward in my post it would be quicker
Derek

Hey Tony

Glad to see yas! If we ever meet I'll buy ya a beer

Ok to make it fair

Those who made it within the 20 min mark can verbaly abuse me for the next 10 minutes

Ok you useles SOB, get of your damn ass, get off the bloody computer and go write some music , you useless SOB.... how's that......

cheers, niteshift

Hey Nite

That's perfect! A very good example of verbal abuse if ever I've seen. Although I would put more emphasis on the bloody! Boy do I feel loved .
Derek

LOL...aaahhhh hugs....I like hugs....:)

I just missed my 10 mins window of opportunity. You can stick the S$$$ I just wanted to verbally abuse you. But this site keeps freezing and I get error messages otherwise I would have.

Derek, I'm here, but as usual I'm Late, the ass has all been kicked, the girl hugged, and the money spent on something else, I'm gonna go write a sad country song, thanks for the inspiration...MJ

Hey Big Jim

You can verbaly abuse me anytime! You know that .
Derek

P.S
Yeah sites been freezing up on me all day as well.

Hey Moker

You never know that might actually sell! I get 3 percent if it does (just kidding)
Derek

Derek,
All the above posts are Ghosts. There ain't anyone here but us Chickens.

Yup. Just the chickens.
Even the cows aren't around, because they're being entertained by Nathan.

Cocka doodle do.!!!!!!

A rooster with a Scottish accent....sounds like a fuster cluck!

Hey watch your language!!!!

You can look as see where people are.. most folks don't understand the shout box or are afraid to post there... most are reading posts and some folks have the left side bar turned off so they don't even see the shout box.. and the unregistered users can't post in the first place.

Brian

Hey Brian

Yes I understood all that. Was just having a bit of fun . Thanks for the info though.
Derek

Ray

Chickens? Really? Wow I guess this thread just laid an egg then Cockodoodle who?
Derek

Darn Nathan and his Cows!

If he loves em so much why doesn't he marry one? lol jk . 42 = the number of tomatoes being thrown at me right now .

James

Now that's funny man! Great turn of an old phrase!
Derek

Hey Big Jim

Seen any turkeys around? Other than Ben F Burton I mean
Derek

I plead the fifth amendment. I have the right to remain silent on the grounds that I might make a fool of myself or anyone who lacks a sense of humour and takes everything literally and to heart

This is a good amendement as it protects the thin skinned, hard of thinking and weak of mind.
These people by law are also entitled to counsel to represent them and protect them from facts or allegations likely to cause distress worry or a change of opinion.

So in other words.

You mean bussiness as usual? Well I for one can accept that readily. After all a certain acronym we use in the Unites States Military. It reads as follows: SNAFU Situation/Normal/All/Guess this word ;)/Up A hint on that F word. It rhymes with chucked lol.
Derek

Jim -

What's Scotlands Fifth Ammendment?

Yeah I'm curios as well.

What is scotland's 5th amendment??
Derek

We would have to write the first four first.
I'll tell you if we ever get a constitution.

Personally I think it should be.... Give way to sheep and remember to be good to your ma. Or you must never tell a right wing Republican a joke cause like women they have no sense of humour and you will get great grief having to explain it in sinpletons terms.

Marty,
It went the way of the 13 floor on the elevator.
Do you really think a FIFTH would last long there...they'd drink it !

Hey Big Jim

I have to admit I was one of those Republicans at one time and (sigh) I voted for Bush; however, I have come to realize that both parties have become quite currupt. I have also come to realize the liberlism isn't the lowest form of life (which is often spouted by blowhards like Rush Limbaugh (yes I used to be a fan of his as well). There is good and bad in all different positions, we just have to remember that we are all people, we make mistakes; we don't always have all the answers; however, for me to say I'm right and your stupidly wrong is assinine. We all have a right to believe things the way we do and nobody should claim to be right because of statistics or graphs. We hardly have even begun to understand how the human body works. Shall we fool ourselves into thinking (from one side or the other) that we have all the answers? Global Warming might kill us all in less than a decade. Global warming is a joke people made up to make poor people pay more. Both of these views are extremist in my opinion. I tend to say let's take this seriously, but let's not use fear mongering to acomplish it. I think we can and should try to reach some middle ground; however, some people just want to be angry. Well that's their choice; I however want to do my best to try to understand both sides of an issue.
Derek

Now dont you start getting all serious on me. Otherwise I may have to revert to talking sense.

Just for the record We do not have a constitution. We are a monarchy.

I will spell out MY basic thoughts and ideals... properly.
You tell me where we disagree.

All folk are equal and should be treated equal and have equal rights and opportunities. No privelges especially education. No discrimination

If you are sick or cannot work (genuinely) then you should not want for a decent standard of living. The state should provide.

Everyone is entitled to receive full healthcare free at point of need.

Everyone is entitled to follow whatever religious or moral beliefs they want providing the practices are legal and do not infringe rights or interfere with any other beliefs.

Free speech for everyone.

Free booze for everyone (sorry slipped that one in)

Contraception and abortion is a matter of individual conscience and no person should interfer in anothers informed choice.
It is a right for everyone to choose. However it must not be taken lightly and proper councilling shoud be given.

Global warming, waste and pollution. Our earth and its climate are precious cause we hand it down to future generations so we have to keep our waste, pollution, and consumption down to realistic sustainable levels.

All large companies and services eg gas, electricity, communications, post, transport, insurance etc should be nationalised. Ie owned and run by the people and profits used to help provide for the nation.

Free enterprise but a minimum wage set at a realistic level to give everyone a decent standard of living. Companies making excessive profits will be taxed more heavily and excessive moneys forfeited. They will be allowed to invest in new technology and expand business and can use profits to fund this.
All workers should be paid according to their productivity but must receive a minimum standard.

Tax. All persons shall be taxed on a sliding scale according to income and dependants.

Pensions. The state shall provide decent pensions for our retired workers. This would be paid for by contributions deducted from pay.

More drug enforcement stiffer sentences for dealers and properly funded and controlled rehab for users.

Heavier sentences for criminals and better justice for victims which should include support and compensation.
I am against the death penalty.
Serious or habitual criminals or sex offenders or people with severe dangerous mental health problems should not be released.

I am totally against anyone bearing arms or any offensive weapons. There is no need in this day and age.

This last one is a bit funny for a lefty but I do believe it
convicted felons and drug addicts and sexual offenders should be
prevented from bearing or raising children.
Crudely put Junkies alcoholics and criminals have no right to self perpetuate.

I am a pacifist anti WMD and any other kind of war. Let no man try to invade my country or mess with me or my family however. I will kill them. Yes I am a hypocrite as well.

These are my basic ideals and morals if you like.
So am I still a horrible commie left pink swine and an outcast?

Ya know Big Jim, for a Scot.....you make a lot of sense. And I probably should know, I've been married to a MacIntosh of the Highlander clan for 20 years......LOL.

Hey Big Jim

Truth be told we agree about 85 percent on most of the things you mentioned. A few points I disagree with are. Socializing (ie having the government run things) scares the living crap out of me. If we had more checks and balances to make sure it really worked then I wouldn't be opposed. Our government of late cannot be trusted to run our health care or our natural resources (power plants etc). Most everything else you mentioned I am with you 100 % . One other possible exception would be the death penalty. I am not for it in many cases; however there are some times when it truly is necessary. The way we carry it out is ludicrous. They have at least 20 years of appeals before they are executed. As I say it should only be as a last resort for someone who is truly evil. Killing someone raping the corpse and then eating the dismembered body should have more of a dire consequence than life in prison in my opinion.

Other than the points I mentioned I think our values match up pretty well. Not too bad considering your an atheist and I'm a Christian.
Derek

Re socializing (nationalisation) can work IF RUN PROPERLY.
That is the key. However when you look at the way some of the large companies run themselves that scares me even more. At least WE would have a say and can vote to change things if they were in the public control.

I stll cannot get my head around the death penalty. Yeah keep someone out of circulation forever but murder in any way shape or form is barbaric and to a certain degree brings US down to their sick level.

You are a correction officer. Interesting to hear your views on things behind bars (I do not mean drinking establishments where I could teach you a thing or two LOL) you must have seen some terrible things.

Hey Big Jim

What I have seen isn't much compared to the stories I've heard (Thank the lord above). I've seen some pretty bad fights and people who give up and die. The stories I've heard are herendous though. I can't really share the details here as they are much too graphic.
Derek

I can imagine.
I am reading a good book at the moment it is called "The Innocent Man" by John Grisham who wrote The Pelican Brief. It reads like a novel but is a true story. It is about a man wrongly convicted of murder and his fight for freedom he is Ron Williamson from Ada, Oklahoma.
Frightening scary stuff worth a read.
Exposes the bad things that happened in the prison service and ineptitude of the police and judicial services in the eighties and nineties. Whoa!!! I hope things have improved since then.

Ya know Big Jim

Because of legislation and law suits those problems don't exist here today and I thank the lord above for that. We treat those incarcerated with respect (if they act up we have to lay down the law); however, most of the time we enjoy mutual respect. I'm not sure thes exists throughout the prison system, but here as long as you treat them decently they won't do anything to you (for the most part).
Derek

Lol,

I am here, quietly listening to you all, lol.

Hey Letha

I envy you that's probably a much better place than the rest of us ranters and ravers
Derek

NOT IGNORING YOU DEREK!

Just pulling my hair out trying to solve upload problems with my new soundclick account.

About that sad country song; the publishers want "Positive, up tempo, LOVE songs.;)

Wayne

Hi Penz2nz

I wasn't feeling ignored lol. I am not sure what the "about the sad country song" is about, but I'm more than happy to help with your soundclick issues if you have any questions.
Derek

If criminals and social misfits were not allowed to pro-create we wouldn't even have an Australia today. = )

Brian

Well to some degree we wouldn't have an America either (we didn't all come over on the mayflower, some where prisoners just like Austrailia.) That said I think there is something to be said for criminal not being able to procreate. I'm not sure I'm actually for it, but it is an interesting idea. I've never agreed with ethnice cleansing (don't know anyone here who does) and it seems like it could be seen that way. I'd prefer if they did have children that they be forced to seek counseling first (or have their child denied rights as a citizen), but that's a pretty extreme position as well. At any rate we'll never see it happen probably so why worry.
Derek

After reading Big Jim's Morality Platform I'd like to know if I can vote for him as President with a write in ballot??? Can we make him a US citizen in that short amount of time??

Bree

Hey if Arnie is Governor (governator) of California anything is possible. I'll write Jim in!
Derek