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Hi Aaron,



I agree. But where in what Everett says, is he disrespecting your musical tastes?

Everett says the following:

"I think music reflects the era that we live in"

This as I pointed out is the gist of what he's saying. You seemed to agree. This is the root from which springs his further thought. No disrespect yet? Next he says:

"The way this world is so messed up, it is no wonder that the music is the same way."

Basically, Everett has proposed a logical syllogism, with two premises/arguments, and a conclusion, as in

Music reflects (the current state of)the world.
The (current state of the) world is (that it's) messed up.
Therefore, it follows that music (in the current world) is messed up.


And his conclusion does indeed follow from those premises. If we accept the arguments, then the conclusion must follow and it's not even open for discussion. It's logic, and logic is airtight. Now..if we DO have a problem with the conclusion (the logical sum), then the fault lies in at least one of the arguments/premises. If you accept 2 and +3 then you must accept 5 as the sum, is what I am trying to say. So perhaps you disagree and think that the world is NOT messed up, and therefore his conclusion is false. That's perfectly fine. Only do realize that he has in no way dissed your music or anyone's music with his premise that the world is messed up! Okay, so far..perhaps you agree..no dissing of anyone's music, at least so far?

Next he says:

"There is so much drugs on the go that I am sure some songs are written, sung and listened to under the influence of drugs and alcohol"

Let's break that down..

"There's so much drugs on the go"--Everett's opinion, and perhaps debatable, but not a dis of anyone's music.

"..that I am sure some songs are written, sung and listened to under the influence of drugs and alcohol.."

Aaron, do you see that Everett qualifies his statement, there? The word "some" is the most important word. Or perhaps you disagree and think that NO songs have ever been written, sung, or listened to while under the influence of drugs and alcohol?

So Aaron, where then, in anything Everett says, is he dissing anyone's music?



How has he continually done this thing you allege him of doing? I count one post from him? Have I done that? Read every post of mine. I promote all music, at every turn, and really take offense, like you, when somebody tries to tell me that the music I like, or anyone else likes for that matter, is "crap." We just have different ways of expressing ourselves. I directly talk to the person whose ideas I have problems with, and try my best to be respectful. You on the other hand basically threw a tantrum:



You know, I would love to believe you are sincere here:

I will defend music from the jaded and bitter because music is one of the most important things in my life and I love it.


--which sounds like you are on a noble crusade, and all..but it's hard to feel any sincerity in that, you know? And that's because of the way you carry yourself. You don't attempt to have a conversation with Everett, you simply lash out at everybody, telling us all to stop, like this is your personal party and we're messing it up.

Everett is an elder statesman around here. He's a real human being, just like you. If you disagree with his thoughts, there are more classy ways of dealing with that disagreement?

Mike