Originally Posted by Lisa Gundling
Brian,

I re-read your message and saw how snarky you were to me. You wrote:

"If you disagree with what he said, no one stopped you from doing it differently. And if you weren't going to donate anything anyway, why do you care about his efforts in the first place? He tried to help and succeeded versus doing nothing at all. It is much appreciated."

Huh? I came onto this thread and TRIED to do it differently! What in the world are you talking about?

I tried to offer a different approach, and you're slamming me for NOT trying a different approach? I asked Midnite to stop insulting people! I gave suggestions for fundraising in a different way! Did you even read Midnite's highly insulting fundraising note on the political forum, which I was referring to? Did you even read what I said?

And if you really don't understand how a "RIP Brian" thread could turn someone off and make them immediately think they don't want to donate to that kind of morbid manipulation, then I really can't help you there.

The different way I was suggesting was NOT tricking people and NOT browbeating people, and to think of what worked in the past, and to try do what worked then.

How can you say I didn't try a different way, when that was the whole point of my message?!

Lisa


I responded to the specific post I quoted, which is why I quoted it. And what I mean by doing it differently, it is just that, doing it differently rather than complaining about something someone else did. He was trying several approaches. It worked as we actually stopped the yearly decrease and passed last year's total, something that wouldn't have happened if he hadn't stepped up.

It's true you donated but that wasn't the issue, I simply noted that your name IS on the honor roll. When we added Paypal and an actual donate button, we started keeping track because it became far easier to track. I often come home from a Roadtrip with stacks of checks, mostly from Hat and T-Shirt sales. They all get combined and in most cases got deposited by my wife Linda, as she handles a lot of those things for me when I tour. Most likely she deposited your check, she has authority to sign for our account and deposit. I may have or may not have signed it, as both of us can, I usually sign them in batches without really noting the list of names. I might come home with 200 checks after a long tour as well as getting mailed payments and occasional donations.

As for your "cryptic" comment about "I know why..." I actually don't. I do recall you left for some time, and I do recall years later I tried to get folks to track down former posters and invite them back. It was effective and many people did in fact come back. By the tone of your post it sounds like you must have disliked something I said or someone else said, but I don't remember whatever it was. I only have time to scan most posts that I look at which is why I quote what I respond to so people know exactly what I am addressing. If you had suggested other ways to generate donations, I still give you the same response: Why not DO it and show how much better it works? Simply criticizing someone else's effort doesn't generate donations, and as I said, if you didn't intend to donate again anyway, why do you even care?

As for the RIP Brian, I agree, it was not good. I told Bob that. He had good intentions but used a poor approach. But thanks to him, 7 people donated who may not have, or who may simply have forgotten about it. I post low key requests because I try to make things free and don't want to hound people. But right now without a corporate sponsor, money is even tighter than normal, so a few hundred dollars makes a big difference to help pay the hosting costs associated with the site and the other related expenses. The upgrade may cost me thousands of dollars, but at least I feel some members want to help and that's enough for me to get things started. So I hired a guy who can help. I have saved up all the money from the past couple years and combined with money out of pocket, I think we can get it all fixed.

Not sure what else to say. I am certainly open to anyone trying a completely different approach to help raise money, but go ahead and do it and let's see if it works rather than just using the idea to belittle someone else's effort. I have no doubt a better approach would work better. It is just that no one else actually did anything.

So thanks for your two donations. Every cent goes directly back to this board.


Brian Austin Whitney
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