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I'm lookin at billboard for that time and years after i'm not seeing this change.

There were songs dedicated to the victims and patriotic songs but the themes remained the same.'

There's always been patriotic songs though.

Maybe with concrete examples you all can show me how music changed and STAYED changed because of 9/11. It can't be just for a few months after like banning songs or postponing tour. When you say changed you mean changed.

Right now i'm not seeing it. Sell me

Oh, Michael Michael Michael...

Didn't you learn anything from the movie "The Princess Bride?"

Never argue with a Sicilian when death is on the line.

Never get involved in a land war in Asia.

AND...And this was in the original script but got deleted due to time constraints:

It takes a lot to get even One Canadian riled up, let alone Two. It's wise to leave any north of the border battles alone, otherwise, you may find a pile of dead snow in your bed when you wake up...

Sorry...I often get The Princess Bride and The Godfather mixed up.

But seriously, for what it's worth. Everett is near and dear to my heart, and I hope he knows that!!!

I consider Aaron as one of the "youngbloods" here and swap PM's with him all the time, because I appreciate hearing his point of view and hope he hangs around forever!!!

But in regards to what one Canadian has written on this thread, and I'm saying this as someone who respects all things Canadian...98% of one Canadian's posts, on this thread, have been positive, and rather than leave him to defend it himself, I just thought I'd put in a good word on his behalf.

Kumbaya:-)

Midnite

I'll start another thread....Hopefully, "politics" can be left out, and we can focus on the Music...

A foolish thought, I know, but let's give it a shot and see how long it goes before it get's out of hand with "politics".

Midnite

Don't be messin with my Canukian Brutha from anutha mutha, Aaron my man!!!! I like that guy.

MAB

Sure it did.....a LOT of Pro America Songs, Soldier Songs and much less if any Party songs for a long time.....I remember that very clearly.

LOL.."The Princess Godfather" --a pile of dead snow in my bed..that's hilarious, Bob.

I will make sure Aaron knows that I respect him and think highly of him, because I certainly do. We have different ways of presenting our thoughts, is all. Perhaps his outburst was warranted, but I feel in my heart there are more constructive ways..and I think Aaron knows that, and I hope he also knows that I think he's pretty funny and a great guy, and that I, too, hope he hangs around, fo sho!

Mike

There is more bad music today. There is also more good music today.

The flaw in our thinking has been it's either one or the other. One fact stands above all others: there is simply a lot more music today, period. From that, it's easy to deduce that some is better and some worse.

But why even get into this "good/bad or better/worse" kind of thinking? Can't there simply be music that I like and music that I don't like? Why must we think divisively, and say there's music that I like and the rest is crap? It seems rather intolerant to me.

If progress and creating a less messed up world is about finding tolerance for others that are different from us and who may like different things than we do, perhaps finding a way to reshape our thoughts towards that tolerant way of being is helping the world become less worse..helping the world to becoming a better place?

The flaw in drawing the conclusion that music is worse today comes from accepting the premise (at face value) that "the world is worse" and that since music reflects the world we live in, that therefor the music, too must be worse.

The truth is that the world is worse in some ways, and better in others. And so the syllogism might be:

Music reflects the world in which we live.
The world today is worse in some ways, and better in others.
Therefore, the music of today is worse in some ways and better in others.

--and that's about as close to anything meaningful that can be drawn from that line of logic..

Mike

What about the other guy? lol

Everette,

I didn't see anybody dissin' you, and thought you already would know how much I think of you. But okay:

NOBODY BE MESSIN OR DISSIN MY CANADIAN BRUTHAS,SISTAHS AND TRANSGENDER PEOPLE!!!
I have spent three winters in WINNIPEG during Febuary and KNOW how hearty those people are!!! They earn their stripes with me all the time!!!
Luv me sum Canuks!!!!!

MAB

Never been in Winnipeg in winter or any time, but Newfoundland can be challenging weather wise in any season, only the tough stay here year around, the weaker ones head south for the winters. lol

Everett,

It all is a place only the tough survive. I had seen some cold winter places in my travels because I would go places in the winter most people wouldn't go. Minnesota, Michigan, and Wisconsin in winter. Pretty Brutal. But LORD Winnipeg was like sub zero ALL the time, five foot snow drifts, and very dangerous if you are not ready for it. But some amazing, hearty people, I care a lot for.

You guys have my admiration!
M

Indeed Marc, I just read that Cold kills 20 times more people than heat does in weather related deaths worldwide. It's not the extreme cold that kills as much either but the kind people underestimate.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/cold-...hen-it-comes-to-weather-deaths-1.3081053

A couple of weeks ago I awoke to a band playing a song on one of the late night shows. The next morning I woke up and ordered their new album. Every song is a keeper.

Still plenty of good music being made. Sometimes it hits you over the head.

Edge of the Sun by Calexico. I've stopped listening only long enough to order a couple of their older albums.

Scott

Scott, I love Calexico!!

Pick up "Blood and Candle Smoke" by Tom Russell. It's produced by Calexico, and they're his band on there as well. Top Five All Time Album, for me. Listen at least to "The Most Dangerous Woman In America" for chills to run up and down your spine..

Mike

Thanks, Mike. I'll check it out!

Scott

Marc, our winters are fast warming up compared to when I was a boy. 40 and 50 below was the norm back then, with snow so high that people had to get out of their houses through windows on the second floor. There was a place on the railway line where trains use to be stuck for weeks at a time. So I guess there is something to this global warming. In another 50 years we may be growing oranges here.LOL

Everett,

They have found fossil records in Antartica of tropical plants and trees under hundreds of feet of Ice from a few million years ago. Maybe they will have palm trees coming your way soon.

MAB