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Fdemetrio #1215666 Yesterday at 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
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I advocate for improving always have

Songwriting is widely considered a skill developed through consistent, intentional practice rather than solely an innate talent. While natural aptitude can help, dedicated practice—writing frequently, analyzing songs, and refining techniques—is paramount for creating high-quality music.

Good morning again.

There is definitely truth in that, but I think that congenital talent goes a long way in a lot of things. Larry (Dom), you could have had the best track coaches in the world since birth and worked out with them, on a track every day for twenty years, but you would never get to the Olympics. Nonetheless, hard work almost always pays off in some way.

#1 Larry aka Fdemetrio aka Dom
Larry, you cite a long list of well known songwriter performers. If any one of them visited this site and offered opinions, I would hang on their words. They've been there and done it, have Grammys to show for it, and seen things that they were sure would work, fail, and things that songs that they thought were middle-of-the-pack, takeoff. George Strait once said that when he put out an album, he had a hard time predicting which songs would be fan favorites.
The takeaway...you are nowhere on the lists of songwriters that you cite. Why is that relevant? Context.

#2 Larry and delusion (continued)
You are not in a recording studio trying to refine and take the rough edges off of a song that you created. You are here. You don't have cuts or grammys or anything else. When the basis for your songwriting critiques and opinions were called into question, you cited boxes of songs that you have written on paper and stuffed into shoe boxes over several years...as proof that you are an accomplished, knowledgeable and skilled songwriter.

Here is another, and to me, a more realistic way to view those boxes.
All of those boxes of random scribblings do not prove that you have advanced songwriting skills. They prove that you never got anything done or completed. Until AI came along and transformed your scribblings into songs....for you.

You are a scrub with delusions of grandeur.

#3 Context
As I said, you are not in the studio with actual artists working out your songs. You are here on this website talking about how great they are. You are the only one talking about how great that they are.

What is this website?
In reality, it is (or was) a social club. This is not a place where Taylor Swift comes to hone her craft. This has boiled down to a group of hobbyists who want to enjoy a pass time, and feel validated. This site is not the Dominick Dunne School of songwriting. You are a scrub with delusions and a poster boy for the Dunning-Krueger effect.

Taking your opinions seriously would be a mistake for anyone to do. There are all sorts of people out their in the world, ready to go into long explanations of how to do something or another, yet they don't really know. Taking their advice, or yours, is a wrong turn and likely harmful to their efforts.

This site did have a songwriter who had played in the game named Barnett. My understanding is that Moe's (JAPOV) constant badgering made him give the place up.

Mike Z was a tireless learner of production skills and a great asset to the site. He was willing to share all sorts of info that he cultivated. I can say with certainty that your badgering made him quit coming.

Kay-Lynn lives is Nashville, writes, attends song-swaps...and brought what she knows to the site. Moe wasn't having that, so he called her a Cu*t and told her to choke on a di*k...understandably she she started her own site.

What remains is Moe, Larry, Shemp, Rachel and breakfast with Marty.

Until tomorrow...maybe

xoxo
Yeah? And how many 13 year old, Taylor Swift were iut there, still are, who DID NOT put the work in, did not study craft, and their abilities thwarted.

And if TS did not work on her craft, we wouldn't know her

Mr oj was found innocent...

Maybe im not nowhere near these people. What does that mean?

If running track, i learn everything i can, manage to finish 5 seconds faster than I normally do, that is a win.

If you run the NYC marathon, and due to work, you FINISH, when I never did before, yet hundreds of people finish ahead of me.
Major win.

What your doing is saying unless somebody is exceptionally gifted, working on their craft will not help them improve.

And using a obvious insult to me, to try and prove that point.

It doesnt matter how successful you are, you can always improve.

You never do because you are a know it all bloviator, with very little knowledge to back it up.

And im a way better writer than you, and its not cause of unworldy skill.

Not many people here understand craft, the ones who do know this indisputable fact well

A great song writer would never say I'm better then the another songwriter , And you seem to say that on every site you've been banned from
You put lyrics in a box and push a button and tell us your going to the studio for that last 4 years and post vids of the who
Let me get this straight my wife has sunscreen on her face to look white and Saran Wrap on her feet cuz she has a headache

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Guys, this is exactly why people stop posting songs here.
Someone shares a track, and instead of feedback, the thread turns into personal attacks and arguments. That doesn’t help anyone improve - it just drives people away.
What I find especially frustrating is that the same people who keep saying this site is dying are often the ones creating the kind of environment that makes others not want to post in the first place. That’s a contradiction worth thinking about. Oh, I forgot ... flies don't have a brain. They don't think.
This is supposed to be a place to share music, learn, and exchange ideas. You can disagree, but there’s a big difference between discussing songwriting and tearing people down.
If we want this place to survive, maybe we should get back to actually talking about the song. If not, just keep on doing what you're doing. Buzzin' loud but you still can't fly. Round and round, just wasting time: https://soundclick.com/song/15230650

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
Guys, this is exactly why people stop posting songs here.
Someone shares a track, and instead of feedback, the thread turns into personal attacks and arguments. That doesn’t help anyone improve - it just drives people away.
What I find especially frustrating is that the same people who keep saying this site is dying are often the ones creating the kind of environment that makes others not want to post in the first place. That’s a contradiction worth thinking about. Oh, I forgot ... flies don't have a brain. They don't think.
This is supposed to be a place to share music, learn, and exchange ideas. You can disagree, but there’s a big difference between discussing songwriting and tearing people down.
If we want this place to survive, maybe we should get back to actually talking about the song. If not, just keep on doing what you're doing. Buzzin' loud but you still can't fly. Round and round, just wasting time: https://soundclick.com/song/15230650


Your wasting your time , this site is dead as Jesus

You can go over there https://www.thesongwritersforum.com/vanilla/discussion/2563/called-me-butterfly#latest. you can push buttons they don't mind and a few song writers will give you feedback , Not some bullshite on that fuckedd war in Iran

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Originally Posted by bennash
Your wasting your time , this site is dead as Jesus

Well, maybe I am wasting my time. Stop buzzin'. Behave and start helping others improve their talents. If everyone here stops insulting other songwriters, maybe, just maybe, this site will come to life again. This site isn't dead. It's just intoxicated. For a moment I thought it was just A Fly That Won't Die, but this thread shows that you guys thrive from each other.

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This site is bad habit like meth and hookers , I try to avoid it


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bennash #1215671 Yesterday at 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by bennash
This site is bad habit like meth and hookers , I try to avoid it

Ben, I assume you're addicted. You can't avoid it, so stop buzzin', behave and start helping others improve their talents. It's not that hard. Don't let the flies make do things you regret later.

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I told him to delete my account several times , So I don't have the temptation to visit this fucked up site . Its real fucking easy delete account
I'm going solve this problem , Set parental control by my wife and have her never give me the password . That should do it

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
Guys, this is exactly why people stop posting songs here.
Someone shares a track, and instead of feedback, the thread turns into personal attacks and arguments. That doesn’t help anyone improve - it just drives people away.
What I find especially frustrating is that the same people who keep saying this site is dying are often the ones creating the kind of environment that makes others not want to post in the first place. That’s a contradiction worth thinking about. Oh, I forgot ... flies don't have a brain. They don't think.
This is supposed to be a place to share music, learn, and exchange ideas. You can disagree, but there’s a big difference between discussing songwriting and tearing people down.
If we want this place to survive, maybe we should get back to actually talking about the song. If not, just keep on doing what you're doing. Buzzin' loud but you still can't fly. Round and round, just wasting time: https://soundclick.com/song/15230650

Good morning again, I see that there has been some activity in the last 24 hours.
As for this particular post...

You are not the voice of reason.
Here is a different view.

You are the voice of Rachel.
You and your toxic obsession with Trump, and undying need to impose your view of politics on groups of amateur songwriters has done plenty to make this site toxic, as a stand-alone.

Kid yourself, but dont expect a clear mind to buy in.

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
If running track, i learn everything i can, manage to finish 5 seconds faster than I normally do, that is a win.

If you run the NYC marathon, and due to work, you FINISH, when I never did before, yet hundreds of people finish ahead of me.
Major win.

What your doing is saying unless somebody is exceptionally gifted, working on their craft will not help them improve.

It doesnt matter how successful you are, you can always improve.



Good morning Larry. It's been 24 hours and you've put up a little bit of information that needs clarification.

In the above you proclaim yourself champion of the "every-man."

"We should not measure ourselves against others, but measure our success against improving upon ourselves. We should run our own races"

Those, to the best of my recollection are the words of a social-psychology professor that I had in 1972.

And I agree with them. And to the extent that they coincide with what you wrote, I agree with you.

But what you wrote, does not describe you.

Over a period of years, you have descended on the song post of almost every "every-man" songwriter at this site and told them what they needed to do to improve on their song, in accordance with the "Dominick Dunne School of Songwriting." And more often than not they would reply thanks for your input but I don't agree.

And then you would begin haranguing them about the shortcomings of their song and that would devolve into insults such as "talentless hack."

You demand strident critiques at the DDSS and strident compliance or the insults follow.
That is not allowing the every-man to "run his/her own race."
That is suffocating their efforts in accordance with your assumed paradigm.



Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Not many people here understand craft, the ones who do know this indisputable fact well


This underscores the basic flaw of your paradigm.
It implies that you are knowledgeable enough and capable enough to hand people a verdict on where their songs stand as art.
I think not, Larry.
I think that it is more accurate to view you as a deluded scrub who thinks that a shoe box full of scribbles indicates skill and prowess, and an "understanding of craft."

It does not. It is just a shoe box full of scribbles.



Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
And im a way better writer than you, and its not cause of unworldy skill.

Before I was banned at MUSE for publicly objecting to Rachel's Trump bash, a complete stranger said a song that I posted was "possibly" the best song that had ever been uploaded to the site.

I am completely aware that is only one person's opinion on a amateur-hobbyist songwriting site.
I am also completely aware that no-one has ever said or will ever say the same about a song of yours...except for you.

Well, that's all the time I have to help you today. I'll check back tomorrow at breakfast and see if there is anything further to respond to.


xoxo

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
If running track, i learn everything i can, manage to finish 5 seconds faster than I normally do, that is a win.

If you run the NYC marathon, and due to work, you FINISH, when I never did before, yet hundreds of people finish ahead of me.
Major win.

What your doing is saying unless somebody is exceptionally gifted, working on their craft will not help them improve.

It doesnt matter how successful you are, you can always improve.


Good morning Larry. It's been 24 hours and you've put up a little bit of information that needs clarification.

In the above you proclaim yourself champion of the "every-man."

"We should not measure ourselves against others, but measure our success against improving upon ourselves. We should run our own races"

Those, to the best of my recollection are the words of a social-psychology professor that I had in 1972.

And I agree with them. And to the extent that they coincide with what you wrote, I agree with you.

But what you wrote, does not describe you.

Over a period of years, you have descended on the song post of almost every "every-man" songwriter at this site and told them what they needed to do to improve on their song, in accordance with the "Dominick Dunne School of Songwriting." And more often than not they would reply thanks for your input but I don't agree.

And then you would begin haranguing them about the shortcomings of their song and that would devolve into insults such as "talentless hack."

You demand strident critiques at the DDSS and strident compliance or the insults follow.
That is not allowing the every-man to "run his/her own race."
That is suffocating their efforts in accordance with your assumed paradigm.



Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Not many people here understand craft, the ones who do know this indisputable fact well


This underscores the basic flaw of your paradigm.
It implies that you are knowledgeable enough and capable enough to hand people a verdict on where their songs stand as art.
I think not, Larry.
I think that it is more accurate to view you as a deluded scrub who thinks that a shoe box full of scribbles indicates skill and prowess.



Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
And im a way better writer than you, and its not cause of unworldy skill.

Before I was banned at MUSE for publicly objecting to Rachel's Trump bash, a complete stranger said a song that I posted was "possibly" the best song that had ever been uploaded to the site.

I am completely aware that is only one person's opinion on a amateur-hobbyist songwriting site.
I am also completely aware that no-one has ever said or will ever say the same about a song of yours...except for you.

Well, that's all the time I have to help you today. I'll check back tomorrow at breakfast and see if there is anything further to respond to.


xoxo

Yeah, but when I hear it.from great musicians and writers. Its not true, its only true if somebody says it to you.

There is no way in hell any of yiur songs are the best somg anybody has ever heard


There are Simon and Garfunkel songs that are not the best somgs one has ever heard

Stairway to Heaven is not the greatest song one has heard

Please organize your thoughts and swallow a dose of reality.

Whoever said that was saying to you because yiu are both on a forum. Maybe he likes it a little. Likely lostem to it agsin


Its this pea brain mentality that gives you the illusion yr opinions are right.

I would instantly recognize whoever said that, as a nice passerby..

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Yeah, but when I hear it.from great musicians and writers. Its not true, its only true if somebody says it to you.

There is no way in hell any of yiur songs are the best somg anybody has ever heard


There are Simon and Garfunkel songs that are not the best somgs one has ever heard

Stairway to Heaven is not the greatest song one has heard

Please organize your thoughts and swallow a dose of reality.

Whoever said that was saying to you because yiu are both on a forum. Maybe he likes it a little. Likely lostem to it agsin


Its this pea brain mentality that gives you the illusion yr opinions are right.

I would instantly recognize whoever said that, as a nice passerby..

OK Larry.
One more bit of clarity and that is all that I have time for today. So sorry.

It is not a fact...that the song that I posted on MUSE is the best song ever posted there or anywhere.
But it is a fact...that a complete stranger said that it "possibly" was. It is a fact that was his opinion.
It is fact...that no one has ever said that about any of your songs...other than you.

It is a very safe bet...that no one ever will.

It is my opinion...that you are a deluded, self-celebrating, scrub.

Gotta go. Will check back in 24.
xoxo

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Yes, I posted this in the correct forum...


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A blood moon shines bright
High time for a slaughter
Don't believe your eyes
Devil's walkin' on the water
Hey, hey, Devil's walkin' on the water...

Honey, honey... it's better to pretend
Money, money... sold yourself again
Funny, funny... laughing till the end
Can't turn back once the reaper comes a callin'...

Another day, the way, and treachery of men
Your heart knows what your soul has to say about sin

A blood moon shines bright
High time for a slaughter
Don't believe your eyes
Devil's walkin' on the water
Hey, hey, Devil's walkin' on the water...

Time lulls and and senses dull
Hand to mouth as life's bell tolls
We prodigies of apologies
The gales of winter chill wherever they blow...

Another day, the way, and treachery of men
Your heart knows what your soul has to say about sin

A blood moon shines bright
High time for a slaughter
Don't believe your eyes
Devil's walkin' on the water
Hey, hey, Devil's walkin' on the water...


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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Yeah, but when I hear it.from great musicians and writers. Its not true, its only true if somebody says it to you.

There is no way in hell any of yiur songs are the best somg anybody has ever heard


There are Simon and Garfunkel songs that are not the best somgs one has ever heard

Stairway to Heaven is not the greatest song one has heard

Please organize your thoughts and swallow a dose of reality.

Whoever said that was saying to you because yiu are both on a forum. Maybe he likes it a little. Likely lostem to it agsin


Its this pea brain mentality that gives you the illusion yr opinions are right.

I would instantly recognize whoever said that, as a nice passerby..

OK Larry.
One more bit of clarity and that is all that I have time for today. So sorry.

It is not a fact...that the song that I posted on MUSE is the best song ever posted there or anywhere.
But it is a fact...that a complete stranger said that it "possibly" was. It is a fact that was his opinion.
It is fact...that no one has ever said that about any of your songs...other than you.

It is a very safe bet...that no one ever will.

It is my opinion...that you are a deluded, self-celebrating, scrub.

Gotta go. Will check back in 24.
xoxo

Ive seen the same quote on forums and my own.

People getting lost in the moment of being with another fellow songwriter , on a forum

Knock it off

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Yes, I posted this in the correct forum...


https://soundclick.com/song/15225285

A blood moon shines bright
High time for a slaughter
Don't believe your eyes
Devil's walkin' on the water
Hey, hey, Devil's walkin' on the water...

Honey, honey... it's better to pretend
Money, money... sold yourself again
Funny, funny... laughing till the end
Can't turn back once the reaper comes a callin'...

Another day, the way, and treachery of men
Your heart knows what your soul has to say about sin

A blood moon shines bright
High time for a slaughter
Don't believe your eyes
Devil's walkin' on the water
Hey, hey, Devil's walkin' on the water...

Time lulls and and senses dull
Hand to mouth as life's bell tolls
We prodigies of apologies
The gales of winter chill wherever they blow...

Another day, the way, and treachery of men
Your heart knows what your soul has to say about sin

A blood moon shines bright
High time for a slaughter
Don't believe your eyes
Devil's walkin' on the water
Hey, hey, Devil's walkin' on the water...

Tony, your song deserves some feedback. I'll give you some and let the others play their usual disgusting games here.

This has a really strong, cohesive dark tone and immediately creates a vivid, almost mythic atmosphere - great job pulling the listener into that world. The hook “Devil’s walkin’ on the water” is especially memorable and feels like a solid anchor for the song. I also like the rhythmic phrasing in sections like “Honey, honey / Money, money,” which gives it a natural musicality. There’s a nice consistency in theme and mood throughout, which makes it feel intentional and focused. With just a bit of tightening and maybe one or two more distinctive images, this could become a really standout piece. Overall, it’s a compelling and well-crafted lyric with a clear identity. Your music is, as always, top-notch. I love your guitar work and your mix is excellent. Your vocals ... they are not my cup of tea, but one can clearly hear, it's you.

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
Originally Posted by JAPOV
Yes, I posted this in the correct forum...


https://soundclick.com/song/15225285

A blood moon shines bright
High time for a slaughter
Don't believe your eyes
Devil's walkin' on the water
Hey, hey, Devil's walkin' on the water...

Honey, honey... it's better to pretend
Money, money... sold yourself again
Funny, funny... laughing till the end
Can't turn back once the reaper comes a callin'...

Another day, the way, and treachery of men
Your heart knows what your soul has to say about sin

A blood moon shines bright
High time for a slaughter
Don't believe your eyes
Devil's walkin' on the water
Hey, hey, Devil's walkin' on the water...

Time lulls and and senses dull
Hand to mouth as life's bell tolls
We prodigies of apologies
The gales of winter chill wherever they blow...

Another day, the way, and treachery of men
Your heart knows what your soul has to say about sin

A blood moon shines bright
High time for a slaughter
Don't believe your eyes
Devil's walkin' on the water
Hey, hey, Devil's walkin' on the water...

Tony, your song deserves some feedback. I'll give you some and let the others play their usual disgusting games here.

This has a really strong, cohesive dark tone and immediately creates a vivid, almost mythic atmosphere - great job pulling the listener into that world. The hook “Devil’s walkin’ on the water” is especially memorable and feels like a solid anchor for the song. I also like the rhythmic phrasing in sections like “Honey, honey / Money, money,” which gives it a natural musicality. There’s a nice consistency in theme and mood throughout, which makes it feel intentional and focused. With just a bit of tightening and maybe one or two more distinctive images, this could become a really standout piece. Overall, it’s a compelling and well-crafted lyric with a clear identity. Your music is, as always, top-notch. I love your guitar work and your mix is excellent. Your vocals ... they are not my cup of tea, but one can clearly hear, it's you.

Rob he doesnt care about the song. Hes here cause he's bored.

Hes fine with this thread working as a rant section.

We just need to stop giving him what he wants.

Attention

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Good morning again, I see that there has been some activity in the last 24 hours.
As for this particular post...

You are not the voice of reason.
Here is a different view.

You are the voice of Rachel.
You and your toxic obsession with Trump, and undying need to impose your view of politics on groups of amateur songwriters has done plenty to make this site toxic, as a stand-alone.

Kid yourself, but dont expect a clear mind to buy in.

Marty, this is getting repetitive and honestly pretty unproductive. Why don't you guys just knock it off or go somewhere else so the focus can return to songwriting.

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Just kick Marty off the site

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
Tell me, why does America need to bomb Iran once again?
Don't we have enough trouble right here?
Don't we have more to learn before we spend billions to create the next worldwide economic crisis?
Aren't there many on Earth who could truly benefit from such wasted expenditures?

Originally Posted by Rob B.
Marty, this is getting repetitive and honestly pretty unproductive. Why don't you guys just knock it off or go somewhere else so the focus can return to songwriting.

You know…I know what you mean and agree.
You watch the same dysfunks come to this site, piss down their leg about the same off-topic stuff as the site seems to be withering on the vine…over-and-over again…and you wish that they would maintain a focus strictly on songwriting.

But they don’t and it is allowed here, under the banner of “free speech.” Years ago, I told a woman that her complaining was accomplishing nothing, just making matters worse. Her response was “some of us just need to vent.”

So, if you want to go off-topic and talk about whatever your favorite “vents” are, then do it.
But you don’t have the standing to dictate what I may find interesting to talk about.

I suppose that you could contrive a plot to have me banned, complete with harassing emails to my personal email account, in order to trigger me…but…on a site where a male calls a woman a cun*t and tells hers to choke on someone’s di*k, yet is allowed to remain?…good luck with that.

And go back and look, I entered the discourse on this thread as a result of reading your post.

Top of the morning to you.

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Ive seen the same quote on forums and my own.


You have not. We both know that.
They never have and never will.
The only person who has ever gone on and on about the greatness of your songs...is you.
You kid yourself about a lot of things and this is one of many.

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Yes, I posted this in the correct forum...

Moe,
Is the guy who told a woman to choke on a di*k here, really trying to sell the idea that he is the champion of orderly discourse and proper protocol?

lol

No sale.

Galatians 6:7–9 (NIV)

"Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up."

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Well Moe,
You did post a song, so I’ll give the song a just-deserved critique.

Before I do:
There are people here who assert that messages that are political and other off-topic stuff can be put into song form, and once they are, the message is exempt from scrutiny and criticism. The song can only be critiqued with regard to structure, form etc.

That seems ridiculous to me.
The primary reason for almost all songs (with lyrics) is the message.The lyrical and musical structures serve the purpose of imprinting the message onto the central nervous system of a listener. “Don’t bore us, get to the chorus.”

Demanding that someone not critique a song’s message seems tantamount to MOTOR TREND magazine inviting essays about F-150 ownership, but forbidding any mention of the engine.

***********

In your song, you feature a malevolent creature created by an omniscient, omnipresent and all powerful creator-of-all. But there was a power struggle at the top tier of the universe and the creature who was created benevolent, “fell-from-grace,” and became malevolent….with the purpose of tempting the hearts and minds of humans in order to prevent them from uniting with the creator-of-all…for eternity.

The creator-of-all is omniscient and therefore knew how all events would unfold beforehand, yet allowed this outcome with this devil.

The creator-of-all is all powerful, yet allows this devil to wreak havok, though the creator-of-all is capable of putting an end to it at any time.

As for me, I wasn’t there to witness any of it first-hand. I can’t tell you whether all of this is true or not.

Your song is a collection of images in which the final reckoning of people who yield to the devil’s temptation and turn away from the creator-of-all are severely punished in a violent end, for their non-compliance.

But to my view, the same person who wrote this….wrote…

Originally Posted by JAPOV
For the record, Mr Lied... I don't give a fuuk about any of your souls!
Never have!
I'm just a student of "prophecy", you fuk'n idiot!
I won't be judged for your lack of faith, Mr Lied.
Sadly, these days, the only soul I care about on this site is my own...

And

"I am a racist"
"C*unt"
"Choke on Bryan’s di*k"
"Well, FUK you then too Rob"

And many other things.
A true Christian would never write those things. They violate too many tenets of the beliefs.
To my view, those writing come from a person with mental illness who has balled Christianity up into a one-off personal belief system which gives his warped outlook ultimate validation.

So…is the song about an ongoing battle between the creator-of-all and a malevolent being that he created?

Or is the song about an ongoing and confused storm strictly within the mind of the person who wrote it?
A very earthly and tremendously narcissistic but frustrated personality, who needs to believe that his life will be validated by the ultimate destruction of the souls of those who do not heed his message.

At the present time, in the progression of technology…death awaits us all.
So I guess we will see, or not.

On balance, I think that the song’s content is rehashed from many other sources and the song’s structure and music are nothing special.

xoxo

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I hope that everyone got a response who was looking for one.
I'm not going to be able to respond for a few days, so Breakfast with Sunset Poet will have to be postponed until next week.

That assumes that I see anything else here that deserves a response.

I hate to say it, but there ain't much music uploading going on here.
My breakfasts seem to be the main attraction at the moment.

You all should work on that.
A start would be an apology to Kay-lynn. Of late, she was the best hope here for a rekindling of songwriting focus.

Have a nice weekend.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
A true Christian would never write those things. They violate too many tenets of the beliefs.

God forgives me.
The Devil condemns me.
The atheist laughs at me.
The "Self Righteous" hold me to an impossible standard...

I just give as good as I get.

Please, Mr Lied, define the "tenets of the belief".


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Please, Mr Lied, define the "tenets of the belief".

I don't have time to dally on this today Moe.
The primary tenets of Christianity are woven into Western Civilization from the day that we're born.

e.g. there are ongoing battles right now about judges hanging the 10C in their courtrooms.
Which, I personally, support their right to do. I see the 10c as one of the cornerstones of law.

RvW...it can't be discussed thoroughly without a mention of religious doctrine regarding conception.

On and on.


I'm not going to start reciting tenets for you, but you should look them up, because some of the very basic ones seem to be lost on you.


Gotta go.
xoxo

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by JAPOV
Please, Mr Lied, define the "tenets of the belief".

I don't have time to dally on this today Moe.
The primary tenets of Christianity are woven into Western Civilization from the day that we're born.

e.g. there are ongoing battles right now about judges hanging the 10C in their courtrooms.
Which, I personally, support their right to do. I see the 10c as one of the cornerstones of law.

RvW...it can't be discussed thoroughly without a mention of religious doctrine regarding conception.

On and on.


I'm not going to start reciting tenets for you, but you should look them up, because some of the very basic ones seem to be lost on you.


Gotta go.
xoxo

Figures... The only authority on the subject (Mr Lied) can't be bothered.
Shame...

You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make for yourself an idol.
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet.

I was really hoping you would explain what the 10 commandments have to do with me telling you to eat a dick and die, you stupid kunt.
Frankly, I hope Anton LaVey assfuks you every day in Hell.
That's "MY" personal belief, shithead... SUCK IT!


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
I was really hoping you would explain what the 10 commandments have to do with me telling you to eat a dick and die, you stupid kunt.
Frankly, I hope Anton LaVey assfuks you every day in Hell.
That's "MY" personal belief, shithead... SUCK IT!

Moe,
Well-wishes and flattery will gain you no special favor with me.

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Figures... The only authority on the subject (Mr Lied) can't be bothered...

You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make for yourself an idol.
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet.

I was really hoping you would explain what the 10 commandments have to do with me telling you to eat a dick and die, you stupid kunt.
Frankly, I hope Anton LaVey assfuks you every day in Hell.
That's "MY" personal belief, shithead... SUCK IT!

Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Well-wishes and flattery will gain you no special favor with me. smile


God forgives me.
The Devil condemns me.
The atheist laughs at me.
The "Self Righteous" hold me to an impossible standard...

I just give as good as I get.


Yes, I posted this in the correct forum...


https://soundclick.com/song/15225285

A blood moon shines bright
High time for a slaughter
Don't believe your eyes
Devil's walkin' on the water
Hey, hey, Devil's walkin' on the water...

Honey, honey... it's better to pretend
Money, money... sold yourself again
Funny, funny... laughing till the end
Can't turn back once the reaper comes a callin'...

Another day, the way, and treachery of men
Your heart knows what your soul has to say about sin

A blood moon shines bright
High time for a slaughter
Don't believe your eyes
Devil's walkin' on the water
Hey, hey, Devil's walkin' on the water...

Time lulls and and senses dull
Hand to mouth as life's bell tolls
We prodigies of apologies
The gales of winter chill wherever they blow...

Another day, the way, and treachery of men
Your heart knows what your soul has to say about sin

A blood moon shines bright
High time for a slaughter
Don't believe your eyes
Devil's walkin' on the water
Hey, hey, Devil's walkin' on the water...


DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME HERE... CANCEL CULTURE IS ALIVE AND WELL @JPF!
YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DELETED...
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