Ray, how did all the people who built and worked in factories, made the 20th century the greatest industrial century of all time, fought for and died for this country in WW1 and WW2 and Korea and Vietnam, get here? They were immigrants too. You're an immigrant and so am I. You would not be here if somebody stopped your ancestors.

If Trump was president then, this great country would have never developed.

That said, we need border security, and it is pretty easy to see a certain portion of the bad guys and where they come from.

But people who talk about the constitution and want it upheld. Well, doesn't it say "all men are created equal" and we all have unalienable rights?

That's different, let's twist the consitution and use it word for word when convenient, but when we want something else, let's change it.

The consitution can't last forever, nothing, not even the earth or stars last forever. Life evolves, so do the times.

I understand we got problems, and we need to stop being afraid to call things like they are. But if we also piss off enough people Goliath may fall

The Roman Empire lasted 2000 years but collapsed, the aggressors always lose in the end, history teaches us that.






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