Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Marty, you are to my knowledge a smart, rational, capable individual who should be able to govern themselves even if others may not be.

You do not need my guidance

You (and I ) and others simply need to extend one another more grace.

In political and religious conversation, the messenger is not the one to shoot.

I expect you and Tony could have a great discussion about your theological differences if you focused on discussing them instead of how awful or stupid or your favourite word the other person is for believing what they do

You know yourself that the first rule in any debate is that if you feel the need to attack the person debating then you have already lost

Have a beef with someone? Have a straight up conversation. If you need to apologize, do so.

John,

There is all that, which is general and guideline-ishly philosophical.

Here is something more specific.

I do not want to be named, referenced or alluded to in songs that you and Rob write. Rob whines about being "attacked," yet such veiled and not-so-veiled "songs" seem to be his typical brand of vindictive weaponization.

I also don't want to cook-up my own little response songs.
I've done it and it's boring.

If you and Rob are going to bring me into your "songs," in spite of my preference to be left out...then it's up to me how I respond.

Regarding politics...
There are many things not to like about Trump.
Nonetheless I voted for him 3 times.
I do not come on here and advocate for Trump or his actions, because personal politics is toxin to an effort such as this.
You and Rob have brought your dislike with Trump-world frequently to this site.
It's allowed.

And so is whatever I may put up as a rebuke...within limits.

Fair is fair. Realize these things.

OTOH,
if someone puts up a pleasant and well written song about a pleasant (enough) subject...look for me to post a pleasant and encouraging comment.

https://soundcloud.com/sunset-poet-of-texas