Yes, those 3,100 scientists are a myth in any way that has a bearing on evidence of climate change.

There was a petition -- do you know who sent it out? Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine. A six-man operation that has also published creationism books, among other things. The word 'science' in their title is a great example of irony.

Who "signed" it (including Star Wars characters, Hawkeye Pierce and Frank Burns, and one Spice Girl). How many were climate scientists?

That it was accompanied by a thoroughly debunked "paper" on evidence of global warming that was published by a "peer-reviewed" journal that has printed articles claiming that HIV doesn't cause AIDS and “humanists” have conspired to replace the “creation religion of Jehovah” with evolution. Science?

That it was sent with an opinion piece by a Dr. Frank Seitz, who was president of the National Academy of Sciences in the 1960s, (although not an expert on climate at all) on letterhead suggesting the NAS endorsed it (and disagreed with ICCP.)

That the NAE went to great lengths to clarify that it does agree with IPCC that global warming in this century is real and "very likely man-caused."

That Seitz is or has been the chairman or on the board of four organizations that deny man-made greenhouse gases have any effect on the climate and are funded by oil companies?

You don't trust Gore, but cite the OISM? Jebus Plebus.

No one says man is "ruining" the climate. That doesn't really mean anything. The climate is changing -- way too quickly to be like any "natural" process in the past -- and our infrastructure and commerce, and disease control, etc, is built on the "unchanged" climate. That's the danger.

God might save us all, I suppose. But the idea reminds me of a Doobie Brothers song called "How Do Those Fools Survive," in which God says mankind is just "giving up their blame to me."

Last edited by joyboy; 06/25/09 10:59 PM.