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Of course I don't know everything, Bill At least if I do, I'm aware of it.

I wouldn't be able to find anything to refute your cut and paste, because no one disagrees about that the Eemian Stage happened.
But it has nothing to do with what's happening now.

I think the author you cut and paste was confusing the Pleistocene with the ice age because he seems to say it's still going on:
During the 2.5 million year span of the Pleistocene, numerous glacials, or significant advances of continental ice sheets in North America and Europe have occurred at intervals of approximately 40,000 to 100,000 years.

It's not. But whatever.

We know for sure that I don't know everything, but I've never heard of ice melt being a factor in the Little Ice Age. I've always seen it attributed to levels of solar radiation. Here's a typical post, this one from NASA. Of course, you might think they aren't as reliable as OIMS. But whatever http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/20011207iceage.html

How about some attribution for water causing it?


The Little Ice Age began around the 13th Century and lasted until the middle of the 19th Century.
During that time, estimates of the coldest average temp was about 1.5 degrees Celsius lower than before the Little Ice Age began.
That's over a period of 600 years. The average temperature went up almost that much again just in the 20th Century.
The coldest temps in the Little Ice Age were in the 18th and 19th Centuries. Once again, climatologists attribute it to a period of less solar radiation.

Solar radiation has been low for 13 years, and the temperature is still going up at a rate way faster than happened at the end of the Little Ice Age.
Why? Carbon gases.

Here's a few places you can read about what real scientists think:
NOAA: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html
MIT: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalweathergang/2009/02/new_research_from_mit_scientis.html
IPCC:http://www.ipcc.ch/
NAS:http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686

These are the real scientists.
The OISM is a bad joke. The fact you cite it makes me think you're trying to cherry pick data to support a political point of view.

I don't like cap and trade, either.
But your power bill going up doesn't mean man-made greenhousegases aren't causing global warming.