Originally Posted by ben willis

Gotta disagree on that one Scott. President Obama Say's that he is willing to negotiate. He said the same thing during the health care debates, but never even considered any of their ideas. The Dems with a super majority even literally locked the Reps out of the room and pushed a bill through that no one had time to read first.


He didn't have to consider their ideas, Ben - as you said, he had a super majority. It was on them to negotiate from a minority position but they refused. It's too bad - the health bill could have been better if they had behaved differently. The democrats probably would have cleaned up the bill in exchange for some bipartisan support. Maybe not though - I'm learning not to project how I would behave onto politicians. smile

Of course, the democrats never miss a chance to shoot themselves in the foot and they did it with that health care bill. I had hoped they would have behaved responsibly but they were incapable of it. They produced a bill with some good ideas and a lot of crap. And they paid for it in the 2010 elections.

Originally Posted by ben willis

He says that he wants to hear ideas from the other side, but in reality has no intention of considering another plan. His own party won't even bring his jobs bill for a vote because they know that it's a lost cause. His only idea is to raise taxes. He only wants to make it a campaign issue and not a real solid plan to put people back to work. He could save his job right now if he would really negotiate with the other side, but his base and socialist ideology will never allow it.


Looks to me like President Obama is taking heat from the left for moving too far to the center. He was willing to go along with a high ratio of spending cuts to revenue increase. The Republicans were the ones who shot themselves in the foot this time - which is rare for them. They could have gotten $7 spending cuts for every $1 in revenue increase. And they turned it down! Any other Republican congress in history would have called that a huge victory. Instead these guys insist on NO taxes - even though over 70% of the people disagree with them. smile

So now, finally, the President is on the offensive. But it may be too late.

I do have to disagree with you that he could save his job if he compromised. He tried it and learned you can't compromise with a group whose main goal is to get you out of office.

Originally Posted by ben willis

He's melting before our eyes. 2012 can't come soon enough.


It's going to be an interesting election alright. It's not looking good for him but I wouldn't count him out yet. If he was running unopposed he would probably lose. But he'll be running against a Republican so he has a shot smile

I think Romney is the only one who can beat him but Romney might not get past the primaries.

Right now, I won't make a prediction. There is a lot of anger at President Obama - but there is even more against the Republican Congress. A lot will depend on whether we go into a double-dip recession or not.

I would be curious to know who you are learning towards in the Republican group. Huntsman is the only one who holds any appeal at all to me.

Scott



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