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Wendy Woo
by Gary E. Andrews - 08/22/26 12:36 AM
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John Eddy
by Gary E. Andrews - 08/21/26 03:25 PM
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SHINE
by Rob B. - 08/20/26 02:34 PM
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Joined: Nov 2008
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I see you're not yet convinced!  Now you're an official street teamer promoting Jango. Not really. Like I said, they gave me an affiliate link AFTER writing the article, so I figured I might as well use it and recycle the money back into the program, to provide more data for my readers. You acknowledged that you had sent them your CD before all of this nonsense and they had declined to play it. No, I said I never heard back. Maybe they played it, maybe they didn't. Same thing with Pandora. I didn't know until someone e-mailed me telling me they heard my song. Finally we have the answer. NO! So how do you know that you have 170 fans? And are they really fans if you don't see them in person or have contact with them? I don't mind repeating myself, but I don't want anyone to infer that I was withholding information. I explained all of that in the first article, and in my response above (post #716627). Will you read my first article if I copy and paste it here? I think it would help people understand the basic mechanics of the site. Even if they are real users, it doesn't matter. They have no actual value to you for your investment beyond making you "feel" good like having bogus MySpace friends who do nothing for you. They are people who heard at least one of my songs and clicked a button to become a "fan." No more, no less. 2. Do you know where they are located? The answer is NO! That's incorrect. The answer is yes. As I explained above (post# 716682), I can see their age, sex, and location on their profile. I don't play live anyway, as we already discussed on another thread. 3 of them. Out of 170. Not bad for a random ad campaign via the net actually. Their communication tools border on useless. I've probably received 20 messages total from fans since I've been on the site. Jango could have simply bought a CD and T-Shirt from you and kept the other 170 dollars and the result would have been the same right? I spent half of that last article explaining why it's impossible to calculate the effectiveness of my campaign, and yet you go ahead and do it anyway, in the most deliberately pessimistic manner possible. I know you're not trying to be deceptive, but it's at least unfair. April sales were $883 and March sales were $900, up from $481 in February. All sales were online. I started at Jango on March 10. At the end of April, I was less than $200 into my Jango campaign. Looking at it in the most deliberately optimistic way possible, I paid Jango less than $100 per month in March and April, and took in $400 more per month in sales. Seriously, I have a great deal of respect for you as an artist Brian and also as a stand up guy willing to supply facts and not shy away from the truth of it all. That says a lot about you across the board. But it actually makes my point even further. You're a hard working and talented musician out there engaged in your career trying to make something happen. And even with your talent this is already proving not to work. That means that anyone slightly LESS talented is going to fail at an even higher rate. Or, someone equally or slightly MORE talented, but in an even more mainstream genre than yours will still likely produce LESS results than you. Very kind of you to say. I agree that I'm putting a lot into this, and would expect better results than someone who just uploads a song, slaps down some cash, and moves on. But they are playing music they previously rejected as not good enough ONLY because you are paying them to (though I suspect after all your vocal support, if they were smart, they'd be playing you all the time to try and push as much benefit to you as possible, so future reports from you may be a bit skewed going forward with your new role as spokesperson for them). In the end, what more does anyone need to know? Again, we don't know whether the music was accepted, rejected, or even listened to. I have no reason to expect I'm getting preferential treatment. The system appears to be completely automated once the song gets accepted into the program. Let's be careful not to veer into ad hominem territory please. I assure you I'm doing my best to remain as impartial as I can.
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