Originally Posted by Mike Caro Substudio
Originally Posted by the songcabinet
You guys are not for real! If you can't find real publishers out there to pitch your music to for free, you are not doing your research properly. Spend a week looking for publishers online, and you'll find more than you can supply in a year!


Mags really? All I have EVER seen is publishers who are set up in there basement, those are the ONLY ones who take unsolicited music. Ones with no juice. Has this changed now, please send me links. Maybe times have changed on me.

I want publishers who represent signed artists who make money, listening to my songs! Not Joe Smith who decided to start his own publishing company like anybody can do. No diss to Joe Smith smile

The ones who say NO we can't listen are the ones who can help you at the level we are seeking. But finding the angle or the hook to get them and passed them is the life time trick. It usually starts by doing and spending all your time effort and money on your music. Some people refer to it as "Networking" now. I call it "busting your ass" smile

Go buy the songwriters market book like I have years ago and won't ever again probably and read all the NO ACCEPTING ones.
Try to find a publisher that will ADVANCE you as well.

Man we've been down that road many times before and decades ago.
Has it changed? Curious but doubtful smile



Yes, this is absolutely true. Remember, I have absolutely NOTHING at stake here. I provide my take, take it or leave it, and I'm not trying to ruin anybodys business - ESPECIALLY not fellow songwriters' business! Do I want to provide you with the links to prove my point? No, because 1) they are not that hard to find (do your own research) and 2) they WILL close down their open doors if they get swamped with 50.000 unrealistic submissions. Over here you can even submit music online to a&r with a MAJOR record company (yes, also for free), how's that for open doors? (it would not take you too long to find THAT; think Denmark, think major labels, think websites). I cannot recommend any of the available books on this subject, you have to do your own research. There's just no way around that.

I know others that have had success building relationships with cold calling too. Nothing new under the hood really. It's called making business relationships or marketing. Communicating in that genre can be learned from books. It's all about relationships with publishers, producers and artists. Blazetrack got that right, IMO.

But if your music is not up to par (sounds on the edge contemporary in broadcast quality), don't bother (of course I know yours ARE, Mike! but this is a public forum). I'm guessing that folks who are buying into deals like Blazetrack are folks who doesn't have that type of music, and think others may want what they have. Unfortunately the market doesn't work that way. You either have it or you don't. They either want it or they won't. Music is subjective, but not THAT subjective!

Bottom line for me is: when you pay for having folks to listen with no real opportunity offered, you basically ruin the market mechanism, and you can't trust the feedback on your music anymore. Good feedback is not in what people SAY, it's in what they DO (risk something of their own for yours, like in contracts and stuff :-). So, what's your win?