Originally Posted by Martin Lide
Originally Posted by Kevin Emmrich
"...proved if you tell a big enough lie often enough, and to enough people, then the lie will be perceived as truth. Gee, I wonder which political party controlling the media today has been most guilty of that???"

ooh, ooh -- I know the answer to that one: Trump, fox news and the republican party.



Kevin...If a person listens to Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh without skepticism, they are making themselves the useful idiots of a ratings race and political propagandists. No doubt of that. Hannity often bends a narrative to the right by leaving out salient facts. (the rest of the story)

And....

If another person believes Rachel Maddow, Acosta and Lemon, they too, at the very least, are making themselves just as much, the useful idiot of a ratings race and political propagandists. The Mueller report made that very clear...........................yes, it did. wink The CNN crew and Master Madcow bring in panels of people who try to present their wants and biases and misc rumors as facts.

The only lasting realities are things like the appointments of SCOTUS and appellate court judges. That is where the rubber meets the road and the overall battle is being lost or won. That is the real focus.

Enjoy your Sunday.

Ps...This impeachment thing is an empty gun.
My prediction....The most notable thing that it will do is keep the elitism and privilege of "regular Joe" and his rehab son in the spotlight. His candidacy is likely a dead man walking. The hard left, "crazycrats" will take him out before Trump does. Great entertainment though.


+1 (in agreement with Marty)

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Until everyone can agree what is factual and what is BS, nothing will change. And the momentum seems to be towards more fervency over ones own particular facts or "alternate" facts..and political ideologies are ideologies, not facts, and because there's two different slants built in, there's never going to be agreement on everything, based on those built-in biases. This is why we need to keep tolerance in the foreground of our minds before things get too out-of-hand.

My fear is that all this will escalate..cuz some people already invite the idea of a civil war between political parties.

And that some Christian conservatives invite Global Warming and religious wars cuz they will help bring about end of days? Where do they draw the line? Is it okay to want that, but not try to hasten it?

When I see, say, the words "let's put all the liberals in one place and nuke 'em" in passing conversation here, or even "I wouldn’t waste time with minorities" writ with absolutely no irony, in a lyric here at JPF..it makes me shudder and feel a bit ashamed that I am a member, and then to watch folks say, yes! --hooray, the First Amendment..

....shrugs...

But at least with that song, and songs in general..I am more apt to be swayed by a song or first-hand heartfelt experiential anecdotes than by political theory..

I doubt I can make it through another year of this..I wish the election was this November.. frown


Mike

Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 09/29/19 11:06 PM.
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