Originally Posted by Sue Rarick
Now, i cant even remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, and Im expected to remember what Jesus said 40 years ago ...... At that time there were few that could read or write and there was a strong oral tradition - It's been proven all around the world that most times there were fewer errors with oral tradition than scribes written pages. (look at the Thou shall not kill which is actually thou shall not murder - a mistake in which version of ancient Greek the original was written in). So in fact people could and often did pass along information in a way we modern people haven't a clue about - especially when 98% of all our information is digital.
Trump appealed to the middle class because the Democrats abandoned them. The Democratic party has nothing to offer middle America.
The real crime of Trump is that a total amateur walked away with the big prize by out playing the professionals - This was a bigger upset than the Washington Nationals beating the Harlem Globetrotters.
On the plus side Trump hasn't started all the wars the Obama crew did (7). They created more mayhem than both Bush's. They created Civil wars in the Ukraine, Libya, Yemen, Syria. Millions dead and all that has been swept under the rug. If Trump should be impeached - Obama should be tried as a war criminal. For example the overthrow of a pro western government in the Ukraine was done only for money. They finally took the Russian 17 billion bailout with no restrictions over the US/EU offer of 5 billion and give up all mineral rights. Thousands died for a hoped for profit that the rebels have kept from the coup masters.


Sue, I have no problem with belief in strong oral traditions, its just not so pinpoint accurate that we can go around posting quotes from the Bible, to use as arsenal in a debate.

If oral traditons are so accurate, that would mean that The Koran would have to be correct too. They have a Prophet, Mohammad, and stories of his life and death too. As do Hindus. So do the Mormons. Everybody has a book on these oral traditions. People cant even agree upon what happened in The Obama administration which took place 5-10 years ago, yet we know precisely what was said 2,000 years ago?

The Bible and other books are moral codes. They teach goodness and give hope. They dont reflect history.

Btw, Republicans dont have anything to offer Middle Class either, It hasnt mattered who was President, the middle class always get and got the shaft. And its no different today.

I wont go into who is a war criminal, That stuff seems to be a matter of whos story you believe. I guess its much like the many bibles out there.


Last edited by Fdemetrio; 09/30/19 04:53 PM.