Originally Posted by JAPOV
"The Bible and other books are moral codes. They teach goodness and give hope. They dont reflect history....."

Ummmm...... I would highly recommend that you read it. There are many books of religion, philosophy, morality out there but the Bible does not present itself as such... In fact, the Bible is "primarily" a history book, validated by archeology and ancient secular historical records thousands of times over, and consequently "defines morality" by its unique perspective. In a court of law, the Bible, especially the new testament, is its own evidence because every author was a witness and every testimony is confirmed to be true mostly by Roman scribes. That's the reason we still swear upon it in the Supreme Court to this day, and the reason why todays "progressive liberals" are so anti-constitutional and anti-Christian. Don't forget, ultimately it was politics that crucified Christ.


Ummm, I went to Catholic School. I had to take Theology class. I read the Bible many times. I used to go to church EVERY sunday, whether I wanted to or not. My Mother went to church EVERY day. I have read the Bible.

Not sure how you can say The Bible is a History book. The Bible DOESN'T present itself as a morality book? "Thou shall not covet they neighbors wife", that stands in stark contrast to "swingers". Do unto others as you would have done unto you? If I bomb your country, I can expect you to bomb mine.... Not only morality, but philosophy entwined.

There are certainly stories in The Bible that have a ring of fact about them. We do find historic sites that seem to corroborate the stories written. Certain persons, places and events rendered true. But even moreseo do we find contradictions and flat out wrong information in the Bible.

One thing I dont want to do is challenge anyone's faith. For me there is nothing more sad than God not existing. It's a fragile life, and we didnt ask to be here, but we are and we're left scratching our heads.






Last edited by Fdemetrio; 10/01/19 11:29 AM.