JPF Home Page Forums General Messages General Message Forum So Where Does Your Song Rank On Ourstage?

Bill,

That simply means that only 11% ALSO voted the same score. They could have voted you the same or worse as well. It's possible to be doing better than the other song and see that result. It's possible no one thought the other song was better, but only 11% had found yours to be better. The others easily could have said tie. If 11 people vote and 1 vote that you're is better and 10 vote a tie, then only 11% of the folks are agreeing with you. (That's a simplified version). The reality is that with 1.2 million visitors who likely visit multiple times each, it takes only moments for scores to start registering. In a channel that small, it's probably almost instant that songs have votes already.

I advised against them tell people how many times songs are judged. It's a tool to help cheaters plan (or determine how worth it it is to cheat). The valuable number is not how many times someone has been FORCED to listen to your songs via the way of judging, but how many times they listened because they wanted to or they were curious. That's a good number to see.. the other is just your random number of times it comes up. It also reveals too much info on the works of their system and I don't think they owe anyone that much info, especially potential competitors. They are a free service. I don't think they owe folks that info when they aren't even charging to use their site. Even if you don't follow or care about the voting stuff, they have a free EPK (Electronic Press Kit) that I think could substitute for the mandatory paid "Service" of Sonic Bids. I've always thought that they were like Ticket Master and they had inserted themselves as a cost for offering up basically nothing in return but a simple EPK. Now that Ourstage has a free one that is just as good, those conferences and festivals and venues who say they just want the convenience shouldn't have the excuse that Sonic Bids is the only option. Accept their EPK and save the artists probably millions of dollars in useless submission fees, that in my opinion only corrupt the submission process and make it a haven for scam artists.

Ourstage is expanding and offering more and more free tools. They are by far the most responsive company of it's kind I've ever seen and they not only listen but they make changes pretty quickly when they can (and it makes sense for them of course which is only fair). But on the subject of showing how many judging battles, I think they are doing the exact right thing by not making that available. If they did, aside from cheaters and competition, artists who were in less popular channels would complain they didn't get as many judgings as those in more popular channels. Who needs that headache? I'd rather have them spending their time adding cool new servers, or finding cool new prizes and gigs for folks.

Brian