Bill,

I truly respect your position/opinion on this. Some thoughts to consider.

1. If you view OS not a contest, but as a way for you to "gut check" songs and meet other like minded individuals you'll enjoy it more and be frustrated less.

2. The rankings change a lot over the course of a month. By the end I've found that they're pretty well accurate. At a minimum the top third belongs together, same with the middle same with back. Of course everyone will have opinions on the exact order, but the groupings are pretty spot on.

3. The new markeplace introduces the concept of a MOJO score. MOJO is a composite score. It takes into consideration historical rankings as well as fan base. This way OS consistent performers (i.e. middle of the pack, but consistently there) will have a higher mojo than the bad song that caught on for a month. Bad songs don't tend to do that over time we've seen.

4. OS will ALWAYS have the free ranking/mojo/epk. If anything, use it for the EPK. No limits on media. No fees to pay. Not sure we can do much better.

-Daniel

Originally Posted by Bill Robinson
I am not saying I'll give up.
What I am saying is I will not likely continue with ourstage.
I am sorry Brian but there are literally dozens on songs that are ahead of me which I cannot even finish listening too. They absolutely suck. The vocals suck, they are off key, pitchy, and the lyrics suck, they are obvious Karaoke tracks, there are covers of well known songs.
I am not a professional singer but I don't sing that bad. I have never been told my vocals were bad. Not professional maybe but certainly not bad.

Whatever it is that the people judging Ourstage are looking for I obviously do not provide it.
I have listened and Judged and I do not understand what it is they want to hear.
I just don't see the sense of beating a dead horse.

We have always said on JPF that we don't want false praise or Back patting for our songs. If the song sucks then say so. I don't want to hear my song is good if it isn't.

Brian you made a comment on a thread a few months back that really angered me. I almost quit JPF because of it.
Edit. I later realized I took it all wrong.
As I read the statement you basically said we (JPFer's who post here regularly) are a bunch of amateurs and pretty much suck. If we want to succeed we need to get better.
Well I have come to the conclusion you might be right( at least in my case)

If the only way I can move up in the ranks on Ourstage is to Hire a Professional singer to do my songs and then post them as my own then no thanks. They need a DEMO category for that.

My truck is Loaded and I am ready to head south to Nashville. I'll check in when I get there tonight.