Thank you for bringing an end to this discussion Big Jim, because you've boiled down your argument to its weakest element.

Your personal opinion of her music, her talent, its content etc, is only that...your subjective opinion. I'll add it is as valid as anyone else's opinion that runs contrary to yours...and I'll even concede that with your experience, it deserves more credence than opinions from those with less exposure.

But your opinion is still merely that...your opinion.

The problem is that you assert that your opinion as fact, a universal fact. In reality, it is merely a "value judgement"

I would not have challenged you if you said...in my opinion, LGG is a talentless hack who does not deserve to be where she is. Everyone is on your case because you say, as if it is fact, she's a talentless hack who does not deserve to be where she is.

Its kinda like libel. I can always say, "in my opinion, Big Jim Merrilees is a lying thieving syphillic cheat with delusions of musical competence", but I cannot state it as fact. People can then take my opinion for what it's worth.... a sackful of excrement.

Now your statements concerning the behaviour of the industry...those are far less subjective.

And I suppose you are right in that I am defending her talent via her results and not via her substance. But I did try that and your value judgement would not accept it. So I mentioned results to say a lot of people voted with their pockets...so they certainly appreciate her entertainment value....but you basically said those people are mindless fools

If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop