Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
... And Kevin "no more than normal" is a heavily pregnant level of fraud to me. What does that mean??


There is some fraud (and some of them are honest mistakes) in every election. Double casting of ballots (one mail in, one in-person), voting in wrong precinct (which is not really fraud), someone not eligible to vote and casting a "provisional ballot", people who early vote and then die before election day (their votes are disallowed). And always, there are some miscounts -- happens every election and these are usually caught during the certification process (but probably not all). These numbers are always present but never amount to enough to change the election, especially when the lead is in the thousands of votes.

If there is a major software glitch, this will be discovered during the certification process where they sample audit a batch of votes -- run them through the machines and then handcount, I see republicans want 100% hand re-counts in Georgia and Wisconsin. That will take too long to complete -- they have until November 26th. Guess what, in previous election vote counting was still going on right up until November 25th. In fact, right now EVERY state is still counting votes.

I just saw an interview with a republican city commissioner who is leading the vote counting in Philadelphia. He says no evidence of fraud that he can see, but tons of lies and misinformation in social media -- and death threats!
He said there was an post that listed a bunch of dead people who voted in Philadelphia. He said, "hmm' and during a break, they checked the voter roles and the people listed hadn't voted! So he says stop listening to the lies and misinformation on social media and find sources that you can trust. That is the same refrain I am hearing from republican election officials all over the country.

There is no wide spread voter fraud. The conservative Heritage foundation did a 20 year study and found no evidence of fraud. Plus this is the most closely watched election in history I do believe. It is all about holding on to power by any means necessary. If it means ignoring the will of the people, that's OK, too.


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