Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Martin, In my opinion....

Trump is desperately hanging on because

1) he is currently raising money from his base supposedly for a legal challenge against voter fraud, however, 60% goes to the national committee to pay off campaign debt. And there's lots to repay. Stoking fraud fears plays into fund raising hands.

2) he is facing numerous lawsuits and investigations for financial impropriety. Imagine how he can gain sympathy from his base...first "they" stole the election, now "they" are ruining me financially

3) he cannot accept losing...full stop.

Nothing I have seen, read or heard points to significant election fraud happening in the states in question or elsewhere....and it seems the Reps have abandoned that tack. Now they are simply taking a bludgeon to the results by attacking mail in votes... after the fact and selectively. If the courts see no fraud and do not accept that all mail in ballots have to be rejected as unconstitutional ( because the controls around that process were sufficient to guard against organized fraud), they can still claim that potential fraud went uninvestigated

So Martin, while I respect your desire to be convinced for yourself this election was overwhelmingly fraud free (I'm leaving room for some occurence), the Penna lawsuit gives you none of that. I expect the courts will strike that down, leaving the Reps and Trump to still claim they were unfairly treated and that the election was stolen there.

Now I know we are "in the process" and should wait things out, but Rep tactics stain not only their party but the nation. This election will be written about and examined, just like Watergate. It will leave a legacy. And IMO it will not be kind to Trump or his inner circle.



John V

Of course you think that Trump is doing this and that. If Biden was behind and this race was coming down to suspect votes in rural Texas and Alabama counties...you would be convinced that those very same things were not true as applied to Biden.

Say what John? Naw. We both know better than that.

I dont know what to believe...But IT APPEARS That

Alito has asked that the late arriving votes be set aside. And he announced when SCOTUS deadlocked in the original filing that, PA may have circumvented the constitution. Amy Barrett should be up to speed soon. Let's see where that goes.