There is this musician whose last name is Blunt, can't remember his first name off hand (I hav'nt followed new music much in this century even though I'm probably younger than most here), along with Coldplay.
The song seems to really matter to those acts.
Then there is the more album oriented or non-mainstream format.
Some are not out to win a contest but have something of their own that they want to offer to the plate and may have even garnered a certain listenership. I respect both methods.
Much hinges on what someones goals are.
I want something done around song ideas myself.

The last person that claimed to do that here I talked to over the phone tried to hustle me for a thousand dollar a month internet lessons.
I'm not out to sound like the other guy or make recordings around samples and call that an artistic work.
I would like to take an idea and get the people around that idea without someone trying to hustle or change me.

And I don't think that I am the only one that thinks that with the "how to be a winning musician" adds.