Originally Posted by couchgrouch
Hummingbird, I know his resume of the BS Boys and Britney. I never said anything about selling out. hell, I want my songs to sell...I just want them to be good songs.

basically, you couldn't answer my question of how he helped you. I didn't think you could. when it comes to these mentors, few ever can. I'll stick to my albums.


Sorry, I didn't realize that I didn't answer your question. I have read all 3 books. I found them all informative. In addition, I found "6 Steps to Songwriting Success" & "Inside Songwriting" to be inspiring.

In addition, I have heard Jason speak. Like he is in the video link, he is passionate about sharing his journey. He is an inspiring speaker. And by inspiring, I mean, he says "you can do this too".

If you haven't his books, or seen him speak, or asked him for a critique, then how do you know that there is nothing that he has to say that is of value?

My only real point here is, it's easy diss / dismiss the journey and success of someone else and say they have nothing to give us as a mentor. It's harder to admit that perhaps we have something to learn, and that perhaps there are mentors and teachers who could take us one step further. If you don't want to read Jason's books, etc., then don't.

Of course, according to the logic I see on this thread, only someone with a recent hit is worthy of being a songwriting teacher... and in that respect... no one here can really compare themselves to Jason or Pat Pattison, or John Braheny or Pat Luboff or Harriet Schlock, etc


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