Thanks Dave...I am honoured to have such friends as you and all the others here...let me assure you all that I count all JPFs as friends.....despite disagreements on many subjects including religion, politics and even music. My bark is much worse than my bite and I never... I repeat never... bear grudges or cast up things from the past. I look forward to having these run ins with my friends every now and again it is good for exchanging ideas and viewpoints.....even Ray who I lock horns with on many occasions I count as a friend and he is most welcome to share a few beers with me...providing in true capitalist spirit he allows me to pay.